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How to get a payday loan refund

Did your payday loans cost so much when you repaid one you had to keep on borrowing?

You can get a refund of the interest you paid on unaffordable loans.

It’s easy to ask for a payday loan refund using the free template letters here. The letters work if your payday loans were repaid or you still owe money.

The comments below this article have thousands of stories of the refunds people have got using these letters. It is a great place to ask questions!

Contents

  • What are “unaffordable” loans?
  • How much compensation can you get?
  • Which lenders can you get refunds from?
  • Do this before, before you send in a complaint
  • Start your complaint & get loan details
    • Some ways to improve this
    • Only one loan?
  • Waiting for a reply from the lender
    • Send your bank statements or other information?
  • Lender says No or makes a poor offer
    • Give up?
    • A good enough case to go to the Ombudsman?
    • How to send a complaint to FOS
    • What happens after you have sent a case to FOS
  • A few problem cases
  • More help

What are “unaffordable” loans?

Was a loan affordable just because you repaid it?

No! If paying a loan left you so broke you had to borrow again – from the same lender or a different one – it was unaffordable!

The regulator says:

 “the borrower should be able to make the required repayments without undue difficulty, whilst continuing to meet other debt repayment obligations and reasonable regular outgoings.”

That means a payday loan is only affordable if you repaid it on time and you could still manage to pay your other bills and debts.

Payday loans are meant to solve a short-term problem. If you kept repaying one then getting another loan soon after, the lender should have stopped lending to you.

If the loan was small and it was the first loan or second loan from a lender,  the lender may not have realised the loan was unaffordable for you. But it was irresponsible lending to just carry on giving you more loans.

Many lenders ignore obvious signs of problems such as your loans increasing in size, or borrowing again soon after repayment.Payday Loan Refunds in 2019 from all UK payday lenders

How much compensation can you get?

You don’t have to calculate this. Just ask for a refund from the lender and see what you are offered. This is simple and it works well.

The Financial Ombudsman has seen tens of thousands of payday loan affordability complaints.

A typical decision by the Ombudsman is that the payday lender should refund all the interest you paid interest after the third, fourth or fifth loan.

But if your first loan was large, or was rolled over several times you could get a refund from just one loan.

Which lenders can you get refunds from?

You can complain to lenders that are still in business, even if they are no longer lending. These include:

Lending Stream, Cash Converters, CashASAP, Drafty, Dot Dot, Fast Loan Uk, Fernovo, Fund Ourselves, Kabayan, LoanPig, Mr Lender, Moneyboat, MyKredit, My Finance Club, QuidMarket, Savvy, The Money Platform, WageMe, Wizzcash,

See this email list for payday lenders for a longer list and all the contact details to use.

If the lender has gone into administration, including CashForUNow, Piggybank, Ferratum, Oakam:

  • make a claim to the administrators  – there is normally a simple form for you to complete, see the lender’s website for details – but there will be a time limit for doing this.
  • you may not get much cash back but this is very easy to do. A balance may be reduced or cleared even if there is no cash to distribute. And if you win the complaint any negative marks on your credit record will be removed.

It is probably too late to make claims to other lenders who gave up years ago, see this list.

For longer-term loans there are better template letters to use on other pages:

  • doorstep lenders and guarantor lenders,
  • Loans2Go – the worst loans in Britain!
  • 118 Money, Everyday lonas, Likely Loans/Finio, Reevo, Bamboo, car finance, bank loans and other long-term loans.

Do this before, before you send in a complaint

Doing these things now will make your life easier later.

Get a copy of your TransUnion statutory credit report and keep it. After complaints are started, sometimes loans are deleted and you may want the full report if you later have to go to the Ombudsman.

If you still owe money to the lender, read Will an affordability claim hurt my credit record, and other questions. These looks at your options for stopping paying, the effect on your credit record etc.

If the rest of your finances are difficult, look into a Debt Management Plan (DMP) where you make one affordable payment a month to StepChange. This gets you into a safe financial position as these affordability complaints can take a long time to go through at the Ombudsman. Winning a complaint then speeds up the DMP.

Unless you can afford to make this month’s payment without borrowing again, cancel the CPA to the lender at your bank. Otherwise the lender may take the money and you will be in a mess.

If your loan was sold to a debt collector you complain to the original lender. But also tell the debt collector that you are disputing the debt. It is a good idea to carry on making payments to the debt collector if they are affordable.

Start your complaint & get loan details

Find the lender’s email address for complaints from this list.

Put “AFFORDABILITY COMPLAINT” as the subject of your email:

I am making an affordability complaint to you about irresponsible lending.

You should never have given me these unaffordable loans. Paying you each month left me with too little money so I had to keep borrowing to get through the next month.

You should have realised from the number of times I borrowed that my debt problems were getting worse. It was not responsible to continue to lend to me. [Add more details eg how often you borrowed or rolled loans if you know them, how the amount borrowed generally went up etc]

[Include/change this if your credit record would have shown big problems:] My credit reports would have shown all my other debts and problems including late payments/defaults /CCJs/debt management.]

I am asking you to refund the interest and any charges I paid, plus statutory interest, and to delete any negative information from my credit record.

[delete this sentence if you know what all your loans were.] I know the difficulties your loans have caused me but I no longer have all the loan details. Please send me a list, showing for each loan when it was taken out, how much interest and charges you added, and what I repaid. This will enable me to assess any refund you offer me.

[delete this sentence if none of your loans were sold.]If a loan was later sold to a debt collector, please inform me of the date of sale and the name of the debt collector. 

Some ways to improve this

Add any other points that help you describe what happened to you. You don’t need to list the loans – the lenders knows them.

Some examples:

  • “I took out another loan with xxxx to pay you.”
  • “Sometimes I borrowed to pay the rent and then had to top-up to get money for food.”
  • if you weren’t treated fairly while you were borrowing or when you could not make a payment, add a bit about this.

You can attach bank statements if you like, This is a good idea as these show how unaffordable the loans were for you. If you have gambling showing, this helps your complaint, it doesn’t harm it.

I don’t know if many lenders actually read what you send them. I

it’s easy to make these complaints – you don’t need to calculate what refund you should get or quote laws.

Only one loan?

The template refers to multiple loans because that is what normally happens with payday lenders.

When you only had one loan and it was large, read Refunds from large loans and use the template there.

If you only had one loan and it was small, this is going to be a very difficult complaint to win. If you have borrowed once or twice from 5 leaders, that is much more difficult to win an affordability complaint than having 4 or 5 loans from two lenders.

Waiting for a reply from the lender

This email starts your affordability complaint.

They may send the list of loans first and later respond to your complaint. So don’t be surprised if you get sent info on the loans but nothing about your request for a refund.

When you get your loan information, you can send in more details about your complaint if you want. You don’t have to do this, your complaint has already begun and the lender has to reply.

The lender should reply to your complaint within 8 weeks from when you send the email, not when they acknowledge it. Make a note in your diary for 8 weeks time and chase the lender up if you don’t get a reply.

Don’t be surprised if you have to wait until the end of the 8 weeks to get response – this is common.

Send your bank statements or other information?

Some lenders ask you to send them a copy of your credit record, payslips or bank statements.

Credit record – the lender can check your credit record themselves if they want. But you should download a copy of your credit record asap as the Ombudsman will ask for it. Don’t put this off, the sooner you get a report downloaded, the further back it goes which is good.

Don’t send payslips.

It is a good idea to send bank statements. But think twice about the cost of copying and postage if there are a lot. Some lenders seem to ignore them if you do send them.

Again this is a good point to get those bank statements even if you do not want to send them as they will help an Ombudsman claim a lot. You can get them going back at least 6 years even if the account has been closed.

Lender says No or makes a poor offer

If the lender rejects your complaint or offers you a small amount, don’t be depressed. You may still have a very good case!

It is easy and free to send your case to the Financial Ombudsman where many thousands of people have won their payday loan complaints, despite being rejected by the lender.

Give up?

Some lenders try to make your case sound bad when it isn’t. People have had large amounts refunded after a complete rejection!

Just ignore any of the following comments, they do not mean you have a weak case:

  • they relied on your loan applications and you didn’t give accurate facts – see Lender says I lied for more about this;
  • you repaid some loans early  – this doesn’t prove the loans were affordable, just that you were trying to save interest;
  • your borrowing didn’t go up every time – irrelevant, what matters is that you kept borrowing;
  • you had a good enough credit score or they didn’t legally have to check your credit record – if you only had one or two small loans that is true. But if the loans were large or you kept borrowing, they should have looked more closely;
  • some loans are over 6 years old – the Ombudsman will look at these even if the lender says they won’t!

A good enough case to go to the Ombudsman?

If you don’t know what to do, ask in the comments below this article. Accepting an offer settles your whole complaint – you can’t change your mind later.

Don’t worry that you will lose a small offer by going to the Ombudsman – this doesn’t happen.

Some points to think about:

  • if you are offered a refund on only a few loans, don’t accept it if you think the lender should have realised a lot of the other loans were unaffordable;
  • an offer to write off your current balance may sound convenient … but it may be very poor if you should get a refund as well;
  • if getting defaults or late payments removed from your credit record is important to you, are you happy with what the lender is proposing to do? Don’t assume your credit record will be cleared if the lender didn’t mention this.

One or two loan cases are hard to win at the Ombudsman. It’s probably best to give up on one or two loan cases unless:

  • the loan was large. Here is one single loan case that was won even though it was an instalment loan and the borrower had a good income. And another single loan case for a loan of £1,000. You can win cases for smaller amounts if the repayment would have been a large amount of your income; or
  • you still owe money.

Don’t delay too long  – there is a 6-month time limit after a lender rejects your complaint to send the case to the ombudsman. When you aren’t sure, send the complaint to FOS. This is free and easy to do – let FOS make the decision.

How to send a complaint to FOS

Put in a separate complaint about each lender.

Don’t wait until all your lenders have replied before sending the first one to the Ombudsman!

FOS’s “complain online” option is easy and takes you through your complaint step by step.

You can just copy what you said in your complaint to the lender. You can add more details, for example, if you disagree with what the lender replied to you.

If some of your loans were over 6 years ago, tell the Ombudsman when and how you found out about these complaints. For example:

“I knew the loans were causing me difficulty in 2018,  but I thought this was my fault for being bad with money. I didn’t find out that the lender should have checked the loans were affordable until June 2024 when my brother told me about these claims/I saw an advert from a claims company on Facebook/I read an article about these claims” – change this so it is right for your case!

Things to attach:

  1. the reply you have had from the lender.
  2. bank statements if you have them. Ideally from 3 months before your first loan until the last loan was repaid or you defaulted on it. This strengthens your case, showing how unaffordable the loans were. You can still get bank statements even if your account is closed – if you don’t have them, start the process of getting them now, don’t wait until FOS asks for them.
  3. a copy of your TransUnion Statutory credit report
  4. if you dont have the credit agreements, FOS will get them from the lender.

What happens after you have sent a case to FOS

You will normally be contacted within a couple of weeks and asked for a copy of your credit record and your bank statements if you haven’t sent these. If you have sent these on one complaint, then when you complain about a different lender FOS will use the ones they already have.

After this initial contact, your case will wait for the lender to send FOS your case file and then wait to be picked up by an adjudicator who will make a decision on it.

If you are still making payments to the lender, tell the lender you want to reduce these to an affordable amount. This will make waiting for an Ombudsman decision much less stressful for you.

The Financial Ombudsman has a two-stage process. Most cases are settled by the first “adjudicator” stage but about 10% go to the second “Ombudsman” stage.

A few problem cases

Don’t ask for a refund:

  • if you are bankrupt now or have been bankrupt in the past  – any refund would go to the Official Receiver.
  • if you are in an IVA, as refunds will go to your IVA firm not to you. If your IVA has finished the refund may still be sent to your old IVA firm.
  • if you are in a DRO now, getting a refund may mean your DRO is cancelled!

More help

You can ask a question in the comments below – you may get a reply from someone who has been in your exact situation.

Don’t use a claims management company. They are expensive and often incompetent. It’s easy to do this yourself and you can ask questions below and get replies from other readers who have done this.


More information:

Card & catalogue affordability complaints

refunds from overdraft charges

Can you get an overdraft refund?

Problem debt look at a DRO

Could a Debt Relief Order help you?

December 12, 2021 Author: Sara Williams Tagged With: Payday loans, Refunds

Comments

  1. Mr A says

    July 7, 2019 at 1:36 am

    Hi
    I have had a couple of very long ones with the FOS

    Quick Quid First complaint July 2018 –> still with FOS not heard a bean
    Lending Stream First complaint June 2018 –> Referred to FOS August 2018 –> LS responded rejecting all 48 loans April 2019 –> still with FOS not picked up yet.

    I know to expect a long wait but approaching a year without even an adjudicator? is this normal, is there anything I can do? LS in particular over 9 months for the initial response letter. Poor show

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 7, 2019 at 6:01 am

      Unfortunately that is not unusual with those two lenders. FOS is now deciding a lot of LS cases, something seemed to get unblocked a couple of months ago, so hopefully yours will be picked up soon. QQ is still a mess but more decisions are now going through and at least QQ is now making better offer to new complaints so the FOS caseload should be dropping – LS is still rejecting very strong cases.

      Reply
      • Mike_p says

        July 7, 2019 at 7:47 am

        My LS one went through fairly quickly – submitted to FOS in early April, adjudicator assigned in early June and adjudicator decision in early July. They said that they should refund interest on the last 10 of my 16 loans and delete all references to the last 9 from my credit file. I’m waiting to see if/how LS respond.

        It’s quite scary looking at my loan history with them, at one point I had 6 open loans with a total repayment commitment of nearly £700.

        Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 7, 2019 at 8:10 am

      I do think it’s a good idea for you to start calling FOS once a month to enquire about progress on both cases.

      Reply
  2. mark says

    July 7, 2019 at 3:35 am

    Hi. i submitted a complained to the FOS in late dec and still haven’t had any communication from an adjudicator. Should i email them to ask what is happening or is it normal it can take this long for a complaint to be processed? .

    thanks

    Reply
    • Mike_p says

      July 7, 2019 at 7:38 am

      It might be worth contacting them t chase it up. I submitted four cases in the first week of April, I had emails to say I had been assigned adjudicators to them in the first week of June, and by the first week of July I’d had adjudicator responses to two of them.

      Reply
    • Robinson says

      July 7, 2019 at 8:12 am

      I submitted in Sep/Oct/Dec last year and only two out of 8 have been picked up – Amigo & LS

      In my experience certain teams appear to be handling certain cases so I would expect a long wait

      Reply
  3. Phil says

    July 7, 2019 at 5:56 pm

    My experience was that Sunny didn’t negotiate for me at all, they seemed to adopted a blanket 12 months of interest and wouldn’t budge.

    The money was still a considerable sum that they offered for me though so I used that to clear off my other debts. Even though I may have got a bit more going to FOS it was worth clearing the other debts for me.

    What they did do for me though was agree to delete all record of every loan ever being on my credit report. There was 34 so this improved my credit report massively. It’s worth asking for that!

    Reply
  4. Tom says

    July 7, 2019 at 6:00 pm

    Hi Sarah,

    I contacted sunny and quickquid 55 days ago and havent heard back from then (tomorrow is the last day they have left before it’s been over 8 weeks).

    How should I handle it if neither companys get back to me by end of play tomorrow? Also do you think its most likely bad news since I havent heard back?

    Thanks

    Tom

    Reply
    • Iain123 says

      July 7, 2019 at 7:22 pm

      They’re snowed under with complaints so be patient, another month or two. With Sunny and QuickQuid you’ll probably be going to the FOS, like most of us. You’ll need a Final Response for the complaint so you’ll need to wait. Read through the archive to get a better picture of how it works.

      Reply
  5. M says

    July 7, 2019 at 7:01 pm

    Hi looking for advice with 247moneybox. Below are my loans and then their response.

    Loan 1
    Advance date: 23/05/2012
    Principal: £80.00
    Repay Date: 29/06/2012
    Repaid Amount: £123.37
    Outstanding amount: £0.00

    Loan 2
    Advance date: 06/07/2012
    Principal: £155.00
    Repay Date: Not repaid
    Repaid Amount: £0.00
    Outstanding amount: £428.20

    Loan 3
    Advance date: 06/10/2015
    Principal: £80.00
    Repay Date: 30/10/2015
    Repaid Amount: £96.00
    Outstanding amount: £0.00

    Total amount borrowed across all loans: £315.00
    Total amount repaid across all loans: £219.37
    Outstanding balance: £428.20

    Having fully investigated your complaint that we did not carry out appropriate checks prior to lending to you and based on the new information you have provided we have decided to uphold your complaint.

    You have borrowed a total of £315.00 from us, and repaid a total of £219.37 to date. This means unfortunately there is no redress we can offer, as the principal balance is yet to be repaid (refunds are calculated from interest and charges paid over the principal amount funded.)

    However, to put things right, we are happy to write off your remaining balance in full. In addition to this, we can also remove all negative reporting from your credit file.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 7, 2019 at 8:37 pm

      If you agree with their figures (that second loan, you never repaid a debt collector for it?) then there offer is very fair and you should accept it.

      Reply
  6. Sophie says

    July 7, 2019 at 9:59 pm

    Hi how quickly had 247 moneybox been getting back to people and how successful has it been? I have contacted them and been acknowledged with all my loan information and asked what I feel would be acceptable to close my complaint

    Reply
    • Glen says

      July 9, 2019 at 1:59 pm

      Hi Sophie,

      My experienc with 247 is that they dont reply. They sent the same statement to me asking what I saw as fair end to the case.
      They then went quiet until the final day of the 8 weeks where they proposed an offer. I said the offer was unacceptable given the circumstances I had provided and counter-offered. That was on the 26th June.
      I have chased up a couple of times asking for confirmation that they received my email but no response.
      From reading through the forum, going quiet seems common for them

      Glen

      Reply
  7. Ann says

    July 7, 2019 at 10:28 pm

    So I’ve made my complaint to sunny Mr Lender Ferratum and money box 24/7 .
    I phone Mr lender on Thursday for something else the lady on phone said she would call me Back
    I’ve had 3 loans one for £200 paid in full one for £250 paid in full last one was £300 no payment paid .
    When she called my back complaint to say my complaint was not withheld but the will wipe all the interest as a goodwill gesture and meaning last loans I have to pay £132 .I borrowed £750 and have to pay that Back so I’m well chuffed
    I’m not holding my hope for sunny who’s had the most interest but we will see mr lender replied within 5 weeks

    Thank you so much

    Reply
  8. Michael says

    July 8, 2019 at 5:15 am

    I have had an ombudsman agree to uphold loans 2 and 3 from qq, and it says any interest or charges payed on the fourth, the problem is the fourth one was payed in full to Mackenzie hall about 9 years ago in full. What should I be expecting, the original loan was for £500 and payed back 767.75, but on my qq account summary it says I still owe 767.75. I have the emails thankfully still from Mackenzie Hall, any help is appreciated.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 8, 2019 at 6:52 am

      You should expect to get back 767-500 plus about 70% interest on that last loan.

      If this is an adjudicator decision, wait until QQ accept it. If it’s an Ombudsman decision, I suggest you tell QQ what you paid and attach the emails to prove it.

      Reply
  9. Michael says

    July 8, 2019 at 8:09 am

    Thanks for the quick reply

    On the outcome it says

    Remove all interest and charges applied to loan 4 from the outset. Any payments MrXxX has made towards loan 4 should be deducted from the starting balance

    What happened was my mother got note of the mess I was in after dozens of letters were coming in daily, one was from Mackenzie hall asking for the full amount which she paid (had to pay her back over a period of time) but when I got my outcome I have tried to calculate the charges and see it says I still owed this as of 2016, this was paid of in 2010. The company (Mackenzie hall) have now be taken over and it’s just the emails asking for payment and the payment receipt I have. This has been my longest wait (over 3 years because the debts were just outside the 6 years) but now with everything signed I just am not sure what they are going to come back to me saying and how to go about the next stage. I sent my agreement on the 1st and was not sure of the time scale that they come up with there calculations and there payout. I would just like this finished and any help on what to expect or that is greatly appreciated.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 8, 2019 at 9:37 am

      OK, well it sounds as though you may have to prove that the amount was paid and luckily you have the evidence. I hope this gets sorted, but in this sort of situation it is reasonable for QQ to look closely at what was paid, not just settle quickly.

      Reply
  10. rebecca Johnson says

    July 8, 2019 at 10:09 am

    So three years ago I successfully claimed just under 3k back from Quick Quid however Its only when I’ve looked on My credit file last month that I’ve realised the massive long string of loans from Payday express which were clearly not affordable too.. Last one I can see on my statement is 2012! Yes over 6 years ago but from looking on here I can still put a claim in for refund? I’ve managed to get statements going back to 2009 from Natwest so I can go through these and see when I first took one out.
    Does anyone know the correct email address for Payday express?

    Reply
    • SIMON127 says

      July 8, 2019 at 11:07 am

      Hi – All complaints for either Payday UK or Payday Express to customerrelations@themoneyshop.co.uk

      Reply
  11. Mary says

    July 8, 2019 at 10:19 am

    I’ve had a response from uncle buck today that they are not upholding my complaint. I’ve only ever had one loan from them, not sure whether to refer? During the time I had it I did have several other loans on the go with other companies and maxed out credit cards.

    Reply
    • Mike_p says

      July 8, 2019 at 10:31 am

      It seems to be quite hard to win a single loan case, the FOS tends to say the first 3-5 loans were reasonable but say that after that they should have noticed that you were becoming reliant on them.

      I have an FOS complaint open for a single Uncle Buck loan that they rejected – I escalated it to them when I knew less about the process and I’m not expecting them to uphold it.

      Reply
  12. rebecca Johnson says

    July 8, 2019 at 10:24 am

    I’m just about to put in a refund claim from payday loans 2010 – 2012. Any Tips for me?
    Good luck with your case

    Reply
    • GM says

      July 11, 2019 at 12:00 am

      Just expect a long wait from PDUK as they take way more than the regulatory 8 weeks from when you initiate the complaint. If they refuse due to age, just say the truth, that you only found out recently and that there was no indication that people could complain about irresponsible/affordability before.
      Also, if you take the case to the FOS whilst they are still looking at the case even after the deadline is gone, they’ll stop looking at it and it almost start from scratch when it’s picked up by the adjudicator at the FOS. So, be patient as they might take a very long time, but you might get somewhere and take less time than sending it to the FOS.

      Reply
  13. Ross says

    July 8, 2019 at 10:56 am

    Hi all

    I submitted a complaint to MyJar and received a response 8 weeks later (14th June) offering me £862 on ~2900£ of interest. I responded on 20th June and said I would accept if they added 2 further loans (the biggest, which would take the total to around £2500). I also submitted new evidence and I don’t really see how they can refute this. I asked for a reply within a week or said I would send to FO. I received no response so on the 2nd of July sent a follow up email asking for an update. They replied the same day saying the new information had been added ot my case and gave their apologies for the delay.

    What should I do here? Can I continue to hassle them for a date? I have other cases with the FO but they haven’t even received an initial response after around a month. Can I submit this to the FO and still accept a revised offer from MyJar?

    Thanks

    Reply
  14. Pryce says

    July 8, 2019 at 10:58 am

    What are the chances of QQ accepting the Adjudicator decision? Do they tend to make offers at this point or will they let it go to the wire with the ombudsman?

    Reply
  15. PHump says

    July 8, 2019 at 11:14 am

    Adjudicator got back to me to let me know he has decided that the loans were unaffordable etc etc – QQ had until 27th June to reply – they haven’t as far as im aware – what are the chances they will accept the adjudicator decision?

    Reply
    • Carl says

      July 8, 2019 at 11:47 am

      QQ rejected my adjudicators decision, so just waiting for ombudsman now :s

      Reply
      • GM says

        July 8, 2019 at 12:05 pm

        Chances of acceptance are close to none. The Ombudsman is very likely the next step… a few more months wait, unfortunately, but once they get the word from the Ombudsman, they are very quick to pay according to several testemonies.

        Reply
  16. John says

    July 8, 2019 at 12:27 pm

    Hi, I’m looking for some help regarding quick quid and pounds to pockets these are the loans I have had.
    14/8/12 p2p 300
    25/7/13 p2p 350
    6/9/13 p2p 115
    6/9/13 qq 250
    6/1/14 qq 100
    6/3/14 qq 150
    4/4/14 qq 141
    7/5/14 qq 80
    19/5/14 p2p 240
    29/5/14 qq 100
    26/6/14 qq 150
    16/9/14 qq 90
    2/12/14 qq 153
    31/12/14 qq 54
    21/11/15 p2p 500
    1/1/16 p2p 800
    5/12/16 p2p 600

    I have but a complaint in to qq via resolver on the 17th of may this has been escalated they now have 3 days left to reply I didn’t realise at the time that qq and p2p are the same company so will all of these loans be looked at together or should I have done this in separate cases, I dont know if I will get a refund or not or how much if I do would I be expecting to get as not sure how it’s all worked out any help or advice would be appreciated.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 9, 2019 at 3:01 pm

      Hi John, 1 complaint or 2 doesn’t matter. It’s best just to wait now and see what they say. You can spend to much time deciding what you would be prepared to accept, it’s easier to think properly when there is an offer in front of you.

      Reply
      • John says

        July 10, 2019 at 10:05 am

        Hi Sara,

        Thanks for the reply just an update to say qq have agreed to refund me £1940 plus pay of the outstanding amount on a loan I currently have of £384.

        They have asked for bank details and have said payment will be made asap when this will actually be I’m not to sure.

        Reply
  17. D says

    July 8, 2019 at 1:29 pm

    So.phonned FOS again for an update regards my LS complaint that was in since November last year.

    Still nothing.

    What I’m not understanding is how people in here have had their case in since April and May this year and already had a decision regards LS.

    There seems to be no rhyme nor reason with how they deal with the cases

    Reply
    • Katie says

      July 8, 2019 at 1:46 pm

      I put mine in around may last year, around March this year I had an adjudicator decision but LS rejected this and is now waiting for ombudsman to review can’t give me no timeframe as they do it order so they say. so so far it’s been about 14months for mine

      Reply
  18. Cj says

    July 8, 2019 at 3:09 pm

    So I finally got my final response letter from safety net credit. Gave it today the day it was due . They have said they have lent responsibly . They have taken my partners wage into account even though I borrowed the money and had the account in my name only .they also said that I had over a thousand pound s a month disposable income….I wish then I wouldn’t have needed their money.they also said they knew about other credit commitments including three ccj in my name only the Pay day loans that were also being paid by me but sometimes they take a chance. Lend anyway??? Have a case do you think to take to fos

    Reply
    • Cj says

      July 8, 2019 at 3:11 pm

      Also my bank account was overdrawn by 4750.00 and has been for t(e last ten years

      Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 8, 2019 at 3:12 pm

      how many months did you use them?

      Reply
  19. Paul says

    July 8, 2019 at 3:28 pm

    Hi guys,

    Just an update Regards payday uk, money shop etc. I have been paid today so all seems well. Long may it continue, best of luck everyone, keep at it!!

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  20. Cj says

    July 8, 2019 at 3:36 pm

    Almost three years ..you pay back everyt8 e money goes into wound but then I had to reborrow to make it through
    They kept increasing my credit limit so within 6 months it had gone from 400 to 1000 not a month went by where I didn’t use all credit that was available to me

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 8, 2019 at 3:38 pm

      Take that to the Ombudsman then! They could see the mess you were in – no excuse really for increasing your limit.

      Reply
  21. Mary says

    July 8, 2019 at 4:48 pm

    I emailed payday U.K. 2 months ago to get a lift of loans etc… still no reply?!

    Reply
    • Iain123 says

      July 8, 2019 at 10:30 pm

      Did you use the template letter on here? They’ll send the list of account transactions with a response. No harm getting on to them, see where you stand.

      Reply
      • Mary says

        July 9, 2019 at 6:58 am

        Yeah, they are the only ones that haven’t responded. I’ve emailed them again so we’ll see what happens

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  22. Sue says

    July 8, 2019 at 4:52 pm

    Hi Sara,

    MyJar have rejected my complaint, do you think it’s worth FCA.

    I borrowed 4 times about £4000 in total over 3 years.

    Each time I borrowed within 24 hours of paying off one loan.

    I was paying huge repayment to them of about £320 a month. No arrears and paid in time.

    I had multiple payday loans at the time of each loan.

    Sunny awarded me redress really quickly but I did continuously borrow for 4 years.

    Many thanks

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 8, 2019 at 5:02 pm

      Definitely send it to the Financial Ombudsman. Not many loans but they were huge, so Myjar should have checked thoroughly.

      Reply
  23. Tricia says

    July 8, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    Adjudicator ruled Moneyboat should pay charges and interest back on loans 4-9 , gave them till July 1 st but they didn’t respond. Assume it goes to ombudsman now, any idea how long this could take please

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    • Zoe says

      July 8, 2019 at 7:38 pm

      Not necessarily, most of the pay day companies are asking for longer than the 14 days just down the sheer volume of decisions going against them via the FOS . I’d speak to your adjudicator to get an update. It’s more than likely they haven’t been able to deal with your case yet. As your adjudicator will normally tell you if the company reject their decision and then it has to go to the ombudsman you should be made aware of that. I’d take no news as good news for now and get an update from your adjudicator

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  24. Joanne says

    July 8, 2019 at 7:54 pm

    Hi

    I’ve just had an email from an adjudicator saying they are upholding my complaint against QQ, I know the likelihood is they will not agree and it will have to go to the ombudsman but I just wondered have they EVER agreed with the adjudicator or is it basically 100% they won’t?thank you

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    • Iain123 says

      July 8, 2019 at 10:27 pm

      Can only relate my experience. Adjudicator gave them two weeks to respond, they replied within a few days rejecting decision and stated they were appealing to an Ombudsman.

      I borrowed extensively from the payday lenders, most have settled due to clear cut irresponsible lending.

      I’ve been on this forum since September and don’t recall good news around QuickQuid.

      Reply
  25. Karen says

    July 9, 2019 at 8:32 am

    Hi all

    I got my refund from money shop yesterday after a long wait the whole claim took over 12 month with FOS then it went to the money shop I didn’t accept the first decision and won the second decision when it went to finale decision with the FOS it took 10 days to get my refund I rang this number 01903768769 for customer relations for the money shop

    Good luck to all what waiting to get there money back hang in there and don’t give up

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  26. Glen says

    July 9, 2019 at 9:52 am

    Morning All,

    Having started this on the 1st May and literally having had my life turned around in that period. Would just like to re-thank Sara and all who have updated and shared their experiences across the various companies. So far to date:
    MrLender: Redress £2169 and £1600 balance cleared – No FOS
    Cashfloat: Redress £362.57 – No FOS
    SafetyNet: Redress £5834 and £1300 balance cleared – No FOS
    UncleBuck: Redress £1650 and £800 balance cleared- No FOS
    Wizzcash: Redress £217 -No FOS
    Amigo: Redress £9765 and £6000 balance cleared – No FOS
    Sunny: Redress £3454 and £950 balance cleared – No FOS (But 30 day wait until payment)
    247 Moneybox: Offer £1200 and balance cleared but counter offered – No FOS (But now gone quiet and cannot get an answer)
    Satsuma – Passed 8 week mark, still havent sent my statement of loans since 1st of May despite chasing 6 times, and keep saying “Another 14 days”.
    PDUK/PDExpress – Passed 8 week mark.
    MyJar – Not upheld -Gone to FOS
    118 – Not Upheld- Gone to FOS

    RE: 247 and Satsuma,is everyone else finding these issues? Dont know what to do about 247 as that was 2 weeks ago now. Satsuma is just patience I guess.
    RE: Sunny, anyone know why its taking them 30days? They can pay a loan in 10 minutes

    Thanks again to Sara and all

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  27. Danny says

    July 9, 2019 at 10:21 am

    Hi Sara

    Sent emails to about 7 lenders using the templates on 31/05/2019, acknowledged by all and so far only had final response from MyJar rejecting my claim. Took out 6 loans over a 12 month period totalling £7,750 so have sent to the FOS.

    The biggest one I have was 47 continuous loans with Sunny totalling about £14,000 over 3 years, interest repaid on them close to £12,000 continually topped up mid month, am I right in thinking that if they offer me a low offer of say less than £4,000 I should send to the FOS?

    I’d effectively used payday loans every month since around 2014 so had a long list of borrowing, finally cleared everything down last month and haven’t borrowed since December 2018, won’t make the same mistakes again!

    Reply
    • Joseph says

      July 9, 2019 at 10:56 am

      Sunny will reject, they are awful, be prepared to send to FOS

      Reply
  28. Si says

    July 9, 2019 at 10:34 am

    A little help please :
    I have received a final response from Uncle Buck that I do not want to accept I will send to the FO
    I need to send my credit report the loans relate to 2014 how do you go back in time to get your credit file from that time?
    Is that what they require of the current credit file?

    Reply
    • Joseph says

      July 9, 2019 at 10:57 am

      If you just download your credit file now it will show all your accounts on their, when they opened, and what their balances have been since you opened that account. Good lukc!

      Reply
      • Si says

        July 9, 2019 at 1:50 pm

        thanks I just think there are historical CCJ that were on my file at 2014 that maybe don’t show now but I guess you cannot get a report to go back in time
        I saw some thread before about using a particular credit report for the HO and a way to download it but cannot find the thread

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          July 9, 2019 at 2:51 pm

          If the CCJs were in 2012-3 they may no currently show on your credit record but they would have been relevant to a lender. (Before 2012, a payday lender probably wouldn’t have paid much attention to old CCJs.)

          Do you have any old paperwork relating to those CCJs? If you do, send that to the Ombudsman as proof of what UB would have seen if they had looked at your credit record properly.

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          • Si says

            July 9, 2019 at 8:04 pm

            Thanks I can see a ccj registered in the middle of the lending from Uncle Buck so will include that, they will not uphold the lending on my final loan number 10where they added the most interest and say because they sold the debt it is nothing to do with them even though it was paid in full after Ccj for 3 times the amount ☹️bizarrely they will only redress the loans 6-9

          • Sara (Debt Camel) says

            July 9, 2019 at 8:10 pm

            So you want to ask the Ombudside for the CCJ to be “set aside”, assuming the last loan that led to the CCJ is included in the refund. UB can talk to the debt collector and arrange this. Or you can apply to the court, in which case you want the redress from UB to include the fee for this application.

  29. Stu says

    July 9, 2019 at 11:16 am

    Hi, what process do we use for high interest credit cards? Capital one, aqua,. And my rbs credit card

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 9, 2019 at 11:38 am

      https://debtcamel.co.uk/refunds-catalogue-credit-card/

      Reply
  30. Sian says

    July 9, 2019 at 12:42 pm

    I am now on my 10th week with Satsuma and they have asked for another 14days – this has gone to the FOS!

    Reply
  31. Glen says

    July 9, 2019 at 1:09 pm

    I got a redress from Sunny wihtout FOS for very near what I wanted and that was including the balance clearing. Only problem with them is they say payment of the funds takes 30days :/

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  32. Michael says

    July 9, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    Hi Guys,

    Just thought id give an update on my Piggybank claim,
    This relates to the following loans.

    16/03/2015 – 200 – Interest – 17.6
    09/04/2015 – 300 – Interest – 36
    18/05/2015 – 400 – Interest – 35.2
    05/06/2015 – 300 – Interest – 50.4
    07/07/2015 – 350 – Interest – 67.2
    07/08/2015 – 150 – Interest – 25.2
    08/09/2015 – 200 – Interest – 27.2
    01/10/2015 – 300 – Interest – 69.6
    09/11/2015 – 100 – Interest – 14.4
    07/12/2015 – 100 – Interest – 8.8
    12/01/2016 – 250 – Interest – 20
    02/02/2016 – 150 – Interest – 28.8
    03/03/2016 – 400 – Interest – 70.4
    04/04/2016 – 200 – Interest – 40
    17/01/2017 – 200 – Interest – 16
    30/01/2017 – 100 – Interest – 4.8
    13/02/2017 – 100 – Interest – 8.8
    03/04/2017 – 100 – Interest – 1.6
    07/04/2017 – 155 – Interest – 26.04
    09/05/2017 – 300 – Interest – 24
    19/06/2017 – 200 – Interest – 17.6
    18/07/2017 – 100 – Interest – 8
    06/11/2017 – 400 – Interest – 32
    07/02/2018 – 650 – Interest – 279.48

    Received the response today 7 weeks after the original complaint.

    They have offered the interest plus the standard 8% on loans 4-14
    Total of £534.69
    This will be used to clear the remaining balance on the last loan £324.94, giving me a cash refund of £209.75

    In total I have paid £929.12 in interest so I’m getting back around 70% of this which is a result.

    Thanks
    Mike

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  33. Mary says

    July 9, 2019 at 1:28 pm

    Just had this from safety net

    Therefore, we propose that we redress all the interest that you have paid (£1042.01), plus statutory 8% interest (£75.53). In line with HMRC guidelines we will deduct 20% (£15.11) from your statutory interest and pay this to HMRC, meaning that you will not have to declare this redress in your tax returns.
    We will then write off any interest on your outstanding balance (£227.35) and deduct your principal outstanding balance (£682.10) from all the interest you have paid. This will allow us to close your account, discharging your liability with SafetyNet Credit, and leaving an amount of £420.34 payable directly to you. Any adverse markers in relation to this SafetyNet Credit Account will also be removed from your credit file.

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  34. chris says

    July 9, 2019 at 3:04 pm

    hi guys – its been a week since an adjudicator ruled in favour of refunding interest on 3/7 loans from lending stream.
    my adjudicaotr will keep me in touch as hes dealt with about 5 complaints with other lenders.
    how should i get LS to reply back to the finding, should i ring them or email them. or leave a bad review on trust pilot?
    thanks for any guidance.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 9, 2019 at 3:12 pm

      the adjudicator will have given them a deadline – probably a couple of weeks? Just wait until that has passed, you can’t speed this up.

      Reply
      • chris says

        July 9, 2019 at 4:04 pm

        hi sara
        it has passed, they had to reply by 02.07.19 and my adjudicator emailed me last Thursday saying they will chase them up.

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          July 9, 2019 at 5:53 pm

          then leave them a bad review on Trust pilot: https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/lendingstream.co.uk

          Reply
        • J says

          July 9, 2019 at 6:53 pm

          Hi Chris – Last week, just a few days after the 14 day deadline LS agreed in full to the adjudicator’s findings for me. I would suggest giving it a couple more days? Soon after they agreed they emailed me directly to confirm and payment arrangements. It might be worth just hanging on for a day or two as they may just be a couple of days behind due to volumes of complaints. J

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  35. Katie says

    July 9, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    Hi Sara, apologies if this is covered elsewhere, but has there been any success with complaints against Lend UK? I can’t see any discussion of this lender?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 9, 2019 at 4:53 pm

      It is a brand name of United Kash who still seem to be in business as a debt collector. I suggest you send a complaint to chris@unitedkash.com.

      Reply
  36. Ross says

    July 9, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    MYJAR have emailed me, today, to advise that my loan is now paid off. The remaining capital owed was £126.84, which is being deducted from a redress payment of £1497.43. However, I have heard nothing at all, with reference to the refund owed? I would’ve thought that, on the same day they closed the loan, they would also at least make contact about the refund? Has anyone else had experience with MYJAR like this please?

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  37. Bobby Reds says

    July 9, 2019 at 5:07 pm

    Hi there,

    247 MoneyBox in calculating my refund due from 8 loans have said:

    “Over loans 1 to 7, you have paid interest of £276.54 (the figure you have calculated). However, this does not take into consideration loan 8. For loan 8 you have borrowed a total of £343.00 from us, and repaid a total of £200.00 to date. This means that you have an outstanding principal amount of £143.00, as redress is calculated from interest and charges paid over the principal amount funded. Therefore, across all your loans you have repaid a total interest of £133.54 (£276.54 – £143.00).”

    Is this how it is calculated? Shouldn’t 247 Moneybox write off loan 8 and refund me the full £276.54 + 8% interest?

    Any advice is greatly appreciated.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 9, 2019 at 5:13 pm

      Assuming the Moneybox figures are correct, then they are right. the Ombudsman will say for the last loan that you should repay what you borrowed, but no interest. So if you have only paid 200 so far and you borrowed 343 (that seems like an odd amount?) then there is still 143 to pay.

      So that 143 will be taken from the refund of the interest on the earlier loans.

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  38. David says

    July 9, 2019 at 5:34 pm

    Hi all and thanks for all the great advice on here. I had an adjudicator decision on sunny and they had till Thursday 4th to get back to the FOS. It’s now Tuesday the 8th and I still haven’t heard anything from Sunny or the adjudicator.

    What is my next step?

    Even if Sunny haven’t contacted FOS, is it just a case of waiting for the adjudicator to get back to me to tell me my next step?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 9, 2019 at 5:42 pm

      Leave them a bad review for very poor and slow complaint handling on trust pilot https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/sunny.co.uk

      Reply
  39. Micky says

    July 9, 2019 at 6:04 pm

    Hi, would like some opinions on the following in regards to getting sunny to pay quick and accept the outcome.

    The Adjudicators upheld my complaint with sunny for loans 7-37 and have emailed sunny and myself. I was thinking of following up with sunny using the below in the hope to get them to agree and pay quicker

    Following on from the attached response from the adjudicator, I have calculated the following (using the attached spreadsheet originally sent to me by yourselves).

    Total Interest Paid (loans 7-37): ££££
    Outstanding Balance loans 34 & 35: ££££

    Deducting the balance owed by myself from the interest and repayment outlined by the adjudicator this leaves £££££ without any statutory interest applied.
    I am willing to not only have the statutory 8% interest wiped from the balance, but to also settle for a lower amount should you pay the balance within the next 48 hours from the date of this email.
    The amount i will accept for payment is ££££ (couple hundred off the amount owed by sunny). My bank details are listed above with my credentials. Please do confirm back to me with your decision.

    Should you not accept the above offer or make payment within the next 48 hours, then the statutory interest of 8% will be due alongside the full amount outlined above.

    Do you reckon this would be a wise tactic or something that may harm the claim and cause them to reject everything and escalate to the FOS

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 9, 2019 at 6:39 pm

      I think Sunny will ignore it. Either they will not agree with the decision, in which they will want it to go to an ombudsman or they will agree and will pay out in full.

      they will also have set procedures for calculating the refund. it would take someone a while to check your spreadsheet, they aren’t going to spend the time doing this. And payment processing will be done in batches. they are unlikely to want to set up a special arrangement just for you.

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  40. Tom says

    July 9, 2019 at 8:00 pm

    Hi Sarah,

    Just for a reply from QQ, they have refused my claim. They said that during times of these they believed me to have sufficient disposable income / gap between lending. My argument was I was using multiple lenders.

    Do you think it’s worth me going to fos, qq seem pretty adamant i dont have much of chance.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 9, 2019 at 8:17 pm

      QQ are always adamant when they reject a case. That doesn’t mean they are right. Obviously it’s not the strongest case, but that is a lot of borrowing over the years, and a few runs of borrowing in consecutive months. I think it’s worth taking to FOS.

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      • Tom says

        July 9, 2019 at 8:52 pm

        Thanks for the reply. Another annoying thing is their chart doesn’t show when I topped up a loan

        Also noticed a couple of loans there the interest is more then the initial amount…for e.g

        Date recieved: 7/25/2015
        Amount: 250
        Interest: 483.6
        Paid off: 10/29/2015

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  41. AH says

    July 9, 2019 at 9:26 pm

    Hi all,

    Will lending stream tell me once they have sent my refund across or do they do it and don’t tell you? I can’t seem to find anything saying they will tell me.

    Thanks
    AH

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    • A says

      July 9, 2019 at 10:24 pm

      I’m 2 weeks in to the 28 day payment period and they have asked if I want to be paid in to the account they have with me (which is a yes so should be simple) but I heard nothing after I replied.

      I did notice on the email from them that they will provide a certificate of the 20% retained for HMRC, so assume they will send that once the refund has been sent.

      From keeping an eye on this thread I think they tend to process payments on the 3 week mark.

      Reply
  42. Steve says

    July 10, 2019 at 11:21 am

    Success! After the FOS adjudicator upheld my complaint about 11/16 loans, Lending Stream have agreed! They have offered £4790 and removal of the 11 loans from my credit file! Never thought I would get this far after the initial rejection! What happens next? The person at the FOS said they do not get involved in the payments, but how do I provide new bank account etc? How quick are LS to pay out?

    1 complaint down 2 more to go. P2P and PDUK both with Adjudicators. Hoping PDUK dont go under as thats inline for a massive pay out if upheld.

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  43. Ruth says

    July 10, 2019 at 11:23 am

    Has anyone had any issues with PaydayUk?

    On two occasions I have submitted my complaint. The first time they said they could not find my account based in the information I had given and asked for some more info which I gave. They then asked me to resubmit. I did so including all the information from the start. I have just received a generic response requesting that same information.

    Don’t know what I am supposed to do? I don’t have copies of all my loan agreements from them, only one. I obviously have bank statements etc. Do I just go to fos or will paydayuk say the same to them?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 10, 2019 at 11:49 am

      There gets to a point where you have to go to FOS. Have you tried getting through to PDUK on the phone/

      Reply
  44. Mary says

    July 10, 2019 at 11:34 am

    Does anyone had any dealings with ferratum? Now other the 8wk mark and not heard anything. I have emailed again to chase but still nothing.

    Reply
    • Mike_p says

      July 10, 2019 at 11:51 am

      Try the online chat. I’d heard nothing after about 10 weeks desptite sending an email to chase them up. I spoke to someone on their online chat and they looked into it and said I’d have a response that day. An hour later I had an email offering to write off my £750 loan and give me £250, which I replied to and accepted. Half an hour later I had an email saying my loan had been closed and 2 hours after that I had £250 in my account.

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      • Mary says

        July 10, 2019 at 12:58 pm

        Thanks, it worked! They have offered 180, I have paid just over 650 in interest?

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  45. KK says

    July 10, 2019 at 11:37 am

    Hi All & Sara

    I just thought I would update on my progress. I received final a response from Mr Lender. They said that they did not uphold my complaint but that as a gesture of goodwill, they would write off the balance I owed them and they have removed the negative information from my credit file. I am happy with that outcome.
    Uncle Buck have not upheld my complaint. There was no negative information on my file from them but they have today offered to refund the interest I paid and they have added statutory.

    Sunny – Outright refused to uphold or discuss the situation with me at all. This one is with the FOS
    My Jar – Not upheld but have said they will review it again if I send my bank statements and a copy of my credit report which has been sent over today.
    Satsuma – Not upheld and will not review – This on is with the FOS.
    Quickquid – Not upheld. They said in their report that my borrowing in the lead up to them lending was not high or frequent. I am going to send them my credit file and bank statements.
    118118 – Final response is due by 16th July.

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    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 10, 2019 at 11:47 am

      QQ won’t negotiate – don’t waste your time, send that one straight to FOS.

      Reply
  46. GM says

    July 10, 2019 at 11:52 am

    PDUK case update. Sent to FOS on 29/10/18, Picked up by adjudicator on 05/07, upheld 09/07 and waiting for reply from business. He advised that PDUK is taking longer than the two week deadline for a reply and it is taking 6 weeks in some cases.
    All loans were more than 6 years old, some from 2008 others 2010-12. £925 + the statutory interest (not yet calculated).
    Fingers crossed, i’ll get paid at the end of september…

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  47. Holly says

    July 10, 2019 at 12:04 pm

    Hi all I have just had a case picked up by FOS and they’ve asked me for the below

    your bank statements for all accounts showing your income and outgoings covering the period from three months before your loan(s) until one month after the date you took it/them,
    a copy of your credit file,
    the date you took out the loan(s) and the amount of each loan you’re complaining about,
    your customer reference number with Gain Credit LLC, if you have it.

    How do I get a copy of my Cedit report I’ve been told I can get it off credit karma but I can’t seem to do it online also what’s gain credit LLC?

    Thanks in advance x

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  48. Emma says

    July 10, 2019 at 12:04 pm

    I submitted a complaint yo PDUK on the 2nd and it hasn’t been acknowledged. I emailed again yesterday with original complaint included in email to ask for confirmation and still nothing!

    Reply
    • Mary says

      July 10, 2019 at 12:06 pm

      Same here, haven’t acknowledged my complaint from 2 months ago when I asked for a list loans etc.

      Reply
  49. Ross says

    July 10, 2019 at 12:25 pm

    Hi Holly,
    I believe Gain LLC is the parent company for LS (assuming that’s the company you’ve complained about?). You can easily obtain your credit report on Credit Karma. Log in, and choose the ‘print’ option. You just need to save it as a PDF. If you download Cute PDF writer, this will convert it in to a PDF attachment, which you can save and send to the FOS. Hope this helps?

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  50. Si says

    July 10, 2019 at 12:34 pm

    so just to add to the issue I have , I sending my case to the HO however have just found out by a bit of investigation that 1st Stop Recoveries Ltd who entered the CCJ on the debt of Uncle Buck have been struck off as a company in Jan 18 so it will be difficult I am guessing to get it removed any further thoughts, if I win the HO case that is

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    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 10, 2019 at 12:56 pm

      I assume you mean FO not HO? Just take the complaint forward and see how it goes. I suggest you talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 about how you would apply for a set aside in this case.

      PS please don’t put anything in the website field when you leave a comment. is intended for people who have their own website.

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  51. katie says

    July 10, 2019 at 12:53 pm

    My complaint is waiting for ombudsman final review the adjudicator agrees that loans 6-17 shouldn’t of been given. Ive finally got my list of loans from LS only took a year and I’ve noticed on the loans 1-6 I paid alot of interest back. Eg loan was 115 paid back the 115 plus 120.75 interest do you think i should get the ombudsman to also consider the loans 1-6 or will it mean the whole process will have to start again

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 10, 2019 at 1:03 pm

      So the complaint is going to an Ombudsman because LS disagreed with it?

      Reply
      • Katie says

        July 10, 2019 at 7:56 pm

        Yes that’s right

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  52. Michael says

    July 10, 2019 at 3:41 pm

    Hi All,

    Just update for my SNC complaint,

    I have just received all offer on the final day of the 8 week since the initial complaint.
    They ruled the complaint was valid.
    Are wiping the remaining balance £325, returning any interest paid plus 8% and removing any negative marks on my credit file

    Great result.

    Thanks for all on this thread, its been a massive help

    Reply
  53. Aymen says

    July 10, 2019 at 4:12 pm

    Hi Michael
    Congratulations for winning your complaint.
    I am half way through 8 weeks with SNC.
    Do mind if I am asking how much was your balance? And how much you get refunds?
    I am trying working out mine that’s all.
    Thanks and congrats again
    Well done 👍

    Reply
    • Mary says

      July 10, 2019 at 7:34 pm

      I got this yesterday which was the 8wk mark

      Therefore, we propose that we redress all the interest that you have paid (£1042.01), plus statutory 8% interest (£75.53). In line with HMRC guidelines we will deduct 20% (£15.11) from your statutory interest and pay this to HMRC, meaning that you will not have to declare this redress in your tax returns.
      We will then write off any interest on your outstanding balance (£227.35) and deduct your principal outstanding balance (£682.10) from all the interest you have paid. This will allow us to close your account, discharging your liability with SafetyNet Credit, and leaving an amount of £420.34 payable directly to you. Any adverse markers in relation to this SafetyNet Credit Account will also be removed from your credit file.

      Reply
    • Michael says

      July 11, 2019 at 8:53 am

      Hi Aymen,

      Here’s the script they sent to me, Seems to be a lot of success with SNC so fingers crossed for you too,

      Therefore, we propose that we redress all the interest that you have paid (£403.39), plus statutory
      8% interest (£29.58). In line with HMRC guidelines we will deduct 20% (£5.92) from your statutory
      interest and pay this to HMRC, meaning that you will not have to declare this redress in your tax
      returns.
      We will then write off any interest on your outstanding balance (£67.59) and deduct your principal
      outstanding balance (£257.25) from all the interest you have paid. This will allow us to close your
      account, discharging your liability with SafetyNet Credit, and leaving an amount of £169.81 payable
      directly to you. Any adverse markers in relation to this SafetyNet Credit Account will also be
      removed from your credit file.

      Mike

      Reply
  54. John says

    July 10, 2019 at 4:28 pm

    Hi Sara

    I need your advice please on the below from satsuma ??

    I can confirm that you were given incorrect information by the operator you spoke to on the 1st July 2019, in which he incorrectly advised that your complaint had been upheld and the interest applied to your loan had been written off. Please accept my apologies for the service you received.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 10, 2019 at 7:51 pm

      So what has happened to your complaint? what stage is it at?

      Reply
  55. Alison says

    July 10, 2019 at 6:32 pm

    Hi many thanks for a great site
    Is there any info on cashasap ?
    Do they generally make offers or decline complaints
    many thanks

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 10, 2019 at 7:40 pm

      They are a small lender, so not many comments. From what I remember:
      – they aren’t good at sending a list of your loans
      – some people have said they quote you as having paid interest which sounds too low, so double check what they say
      – they used to be very aggressive in trying to get people to drop complaints, saying you lied – I hope they have given that up
      – they make pretty low offers but you can talk them up a bit. If you had a lot of loans from them, expect to have to go to FOS.

      Reply
  56. SIMON127 says

    July 10, 2019 at 7:56 pm

    Hi
    I recently accepted an offer from cashasap, they agreed to refund interest on 50% of the loans I had which equated to £1,000. They don’t add 8% statutory interest.
    Accepted the offer as I didn’t want to go through the wait of the FOS which can be 12 months for the sake of an extra £800.
    Don’t expect a full and final response until the last day of the 8 week window! However, they will payout straight away when you accept the offer.

    Reply
    • Ele says

      July 11, 2019 at 7:39 am

      They didn’t uphold mine but offered £25 good Will gesture. That was 4 weeks ago. I emailed back straight away asking them how much interest I paid in total and for a list of loans and still waiting even for an acknowledgement. Sent numerous emails since and now said they have 5 days to respond or I am sending to FOS

      Reply
  57. Ele says

    July 10, 2019 at 9:18 pm

    Hi all does anyone know what this means? What are they actually proposing that they pay me back?

    Sunny:’To put things right, we propose to do the following:

    Calculate the interest paid by you from your 37th loan onwards £2459.75;
    Pay interest of 8% (simple) on the above refund amount from the dates of payment to the dates of settlement, which comes to £372;
    Amend your credit file by removing all loans from your 37th loan onwards

    Please let us know if you wish to accept this offer and provide your sort code and account number by return email so I can arrange for the redress payment to be made to you. Once we are in receipt of these details, please allow 30 days to receive the payment’

    Thanks everyone

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 10, 2019 at 9:33 pm

      they are offering to pay you a refund on all your loans from loan 37. The interest on them comes to 2459 and they are adding 372 statutory interest, so that would be a total of £2831.

      They haven’t mentioned that you owe them any money, so I assume you repaid all the loans.

      Unless the first 36 loans were very small, this sounds like a poor offer… do you know how much interest you paid on the first 36 loans?

      Reply
  58. Ele says

    July 10, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    Thank you. I had 43 loans in total so they are hardly refunding any. Despite me asking in my original email nearly 16 weeks ago when my complaint started with them (they kept putting it back) for details of all my loans – they still haven’t provided this. So I have no idea what my total interest paid was. I think I should find out what it was and then make a decision. As only refunding loans 37-43 doesn’t seem like a good offer?

    Reply
    • Iain123 says

      July 11, 2019 at 4:04 am

      It’s not a good offer. The FOS could make them refund loans 6-43. So complain today and by Christmas you’ll be £££££.

      You can’t accept the offer and complain to the FOS about the other loans. The only risk is if they go into administration.

      Reply
  59. Ele says

    July 11, 2019 at 7:13 am

    Hi all

    I am jut worried if they go into administration I could be losing a lot of money which would help me pay other debts. Is there any suggestion of this with sunny currently? It is just so unfair with how long the FOS taketo pick cases up as you always have that risk. It should be the case that they have to uphold if you’ve passed it on to FOS and they go into administration at that time.

    I have asked them what I have paid in total in interest as they have not provided this information. Given that from loans 37-43 it was 2400 approx then I am assuming this could be huge figures.

    Is there information on here about how you submit to FOS

    Just to add I did have a gambling problem do you think there is a risk that FOS will not uphold any?

    Sunny are saying they will only uphold from loan 37 because that’s when I began making late payments but they still continued to lend to me up until I stopped at 43 and sorted my gambling problem out.
    Thanks for your help guys

    Reply
    • Mike_p says

      July 11, 2019 at 7:24 am

      Going into administration doesn’t absolve them of what they owe you, but if the money isn’t there then there is no way that everyone can be paid the full amount owed.

      Reply
      • Ele says

        July 11, 2019 at 7:36 am

        Thanks everyone

        Yea I understand that but it’s a tiny fraction we would receive back isn’t. My worry is how long FOS are taking to pick this up. I paid approx £5050 total interest across all loans with one of my bigger interests at Loan 24 of £985. I might go back and ask if they will go from then. If not send to FOS. It’s such s tough choice as their offer is such a lot of money to me right now.

        Anybody’s thoughts are very welcome on what they think I should do

        Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 11, 2019 at 8:11 am

      Sunny are owned by a US firm called Elevate. It is listed on an American Stock exchange, so the company has to publish detailed quarterly accounts. There were no comments in their last one (late April) at about the level of UK complaint refunds being too high or unsustainable. If you compare this to Wageday Advance, which went into administration in February, their US parent had clearly signalled in October 2018 and then in January 2019 that the costs of paying refunds were too high.

      Obviously I can’t say that Sunny won’t go under, but there is a lot more visibility about US listed companies and so far there isn’t any sign of it having problems.

      Reply
  60. Ade says

    July 11, 2019 at 8:15 am

    I tried to reason with sunny. I took 90 loans out and they would only refund after 18 months of borrowing. They would not compromise at all. So i sent to fos in june and to be fair they’ve emailed back asking for all my documents and have been in touch with sunny to get all there paperwork. So hopefully it may get sorted quickly.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 11, 2019 at 8:24 am

      There is NO point in trying to reason with Sunny, you just waste your time and get frustrated.

      Reply
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