In October 2014, some people who had IVAs with PJG Recovery had their cases transferred to Creditfix.
The people who have been transferred were told that nothing else would change in their IVA. Two months on in December 2014 however, they are being asked to agree to a variation in the terms of their IVA, including increasing the fees that Creditfix charge. Some people have expressed unhappiness with the transfer and are worried about what will happen if they agree to the proposed Creditfix IVA variation.
*** UPDATE June 2015
Some people have just received from Creditfix the Chairman’s report from the Variation Meeting several months ago. It is reported that some people who did not consent have also been included in this “mass variation”.
Your IVA cannot be varied without your consent. There are suggestions that Creditfix says it sent out a second mailing saying if you don’t reply you will have been assumed to consent. There are potential disadvantages to a debtor from agreeing to this change (see below) and so explicit consent should be obtained in my opinion. I don’t think assuming consent is reasonable, even if this had been sent recorded delivery so there was proof that it had been received – some people are saying they never received it.
If you feel that you have been included without your consent, I suggest you complain to Creditfix and put in a formal complaint to their regulator via the Insolvency Service gateway.
*** END OF UPDATE
The proposed Creditfix IVA variation
My standard IVA warning: this article discusses the proposed variation in general terms, it is not legal advice; I don’t know the terms of your IVA, your financial circumstances or how the variation would impact you; If you need advice on whether you should agree to any IVA variation you should go to your local Citizens Advice.
The three most important points appear to me to be:
- changing Creditfix’s fees to 23%. For most IVAs this will be a significant increase as, anecdotally, 15% seem to be a typical level for the transferred IVAs. NB These fees are deducted from your IVA payments – your payments will not be increased.
- deleting any “minimum dividend” included in the IVA – it is needed because the proposed fee hike will reduce the dividend to the creditors. This won’t affect many people as most IVAs do not have a minimum dividend. If your IVA has a different term such as estimated/projected/available dividend, this is not a minimum.
- allowing debtors to retain 50% of any realised PPI – this is the major incentive being offered for you to sign.
Most of the other proposed changes appear to be minor or for clarification.
So far as I can see, the only two advantages of agreeing to the variation are:
- you will be able to retain 50% of subsequent PPI reclaims. If your PPI reclaims have already be completed or you know there isn’t any PPI to reclaim, this may not seem much of an incentive;
- a suggestion that it may be quicker to close your IVA at the end. PJG had a good reputation for closing IVAs promptly after the last payment so there is no reason why this variation is essential for good administration, however if you are close to the end of your IVA so you know none of the disadvantages (see below) are relevant, you may decide that it’s worth doing everything possible to get a fast closure,
There could be disadvantages for some people because of the increase in fees:
- if you have a joint debt in your IVA and your partner doesn’t have an IVA, then the increase in fees will mean that less of this joint debt is repaid from your IVA payments, so your partner will be left with a larger debt at the end of your IVA. For most people this is irrelevant or would be a fairly small amount;
- if your IVA fails, then you will be left with a larger debt because of the increased fees;
- if you reach the “100p in the pound” point, perhaps because you have had a windfall such as an inheritance, then you will be paying the larger IVA fees;
- if you want to try to settle your IVA early because you are struggling, then it is possible that your creditors may be less likely to agree, or may want a larger “full and final” settlement because they will have received a lower dividend. This is less definite than the other points here, as the decision to accept an early settlement is based on each individual case.
In bulletin board discussions some other concerns have been mentioned:
- could there be any requirement to take out a secured loan? This isn’t mentioned and no changes to equity release are being proposed;
- what if a creditor accepted some of the proposals and rejected others? I think this is pretty unlikely – Creditfix are trying to simplify their administration, not multiply the numbers of unusual cases they have.
What happens if you refuse to agree?
If you don’t feel you will benefit enough to outweigh any possible disadvantage, then there is no reason to agree. Your IVA will continue as it is at present – your IVA terms and conditions were fixed at the start and can’t be changed without your consent.
Why would the creditors agree?
I don’t know. It would be very interesting to know the arguments Creditfix are using to persuade the creditors to agree to this. The only financial gain for creditors would seem to be if Creditfix is more robust in pursuing PPI reclaims than PJG were, but this would have to be surprisingly large to outweigh both the 50% PPI rebate being offered to debtors and the increased fees.
Creditfix has adopted this “take over and then try to charge higher fees” approach before, when they took over Simple Debt Solutions in December 2013. I don’t know how successful they were then in getting creditors to agree. For many IVAs, getting “creditor approval” actually only requires getting a single approval, from TIX, an IVA administration firm that votes on behalf of most creditors.
If Creditfix can push this change through, it raises some interesting questions: is there any reason why other IVA firms shouldn’t seek to get a variation to increase their existing fees? Or why TIX shouldn’t agree to 23% being the standard rate on new IVA cases?
Joe Easedale says
The Creditors are a big issue imho. The legal agreement works two ways – both for debtor and creditor. IF the IVA company has not got specific agreements from ALL creditors who are a party to each IVA, then any one of them could cry foul and declare the IVA failed, putting the debtor back in the original position before the iva was agreed to but with each year that the iva was going being subject to backdated interest due to the failure. I would be VERY leery of agreeing to ANY variation; without at the very least having a signed consent to each specific change, signed by each and every creditor in the IVA, and getting that would be an administrative nightmare.
At present, each IVA is a legally binding agreement. IF you keep to that agreement, your debts will be written off at the end of the process. Why risk that not happening because the IVA company want more fees?
A Smith says
Hi All
I am in my last 5 months of my IVA now, I have been in it 5Years 7Months
I have just had a letter from Creditfix saying they want to extend it by a year, same monthly payments, due to the supposed equity in my house
Obviously I dont want to do this. Are they allowed to change my agreement at this point?
What are my options?
Any advice greatfully received!
Colin
Sara (Debt Camel) says
Hi Colin, they can’t “change your agreement”. However your original agreement may have said an extra year could be added if you can’t release equity. You need to look at the original agreement and find out. If there was something like that, then you need to check the details – have you had a valuation of your house that you think is reasonable? Is your house jointly owned? If you don’t think it’s right, then you could go to your local Citizens Advice Bureau, or you could post the numbers on IVA chat boards. If it does seem right but there are good reasons why you can’t afford the extra year you could talk to Creditfix about whether they could propose that your IVA is completed without the extension.
A Smith says
Hi Sara
Thanks for the reply
Yes, i have this in my contract, re the equity in my house
The value seems ok, and the outstanding mortgage seems correct, giving an equity
Im not sure how they have worked out the extra years worth of payments from this equity though.
The house is jointly owned, by me and my wife. does this make any difference?
I have struggled through this for 4 and a half years, just to be told this, what a kick in the teeth!
I will call them but may also go to the CAB first too
Colin
Sara (Debt Camel) says
Ask them to explain their calculation. If your wife has half the equity but only you have an IVA then her share of the equity should be excluded in the calculations.
Confused says
I was moved to CF and decided to ignore this letter. Now I have one saying my variation has been approved but I didn’t sign anything is this legal?
Sara (Debt Camel) says
Hi “confused”, it seems other people have also had this letter. I’ve updated this article to cover this.
annon26 says
In my opinion, the IVA cant be varied without the clients specific consent. Not responding cant be consent. I’d go to speak to the local CAB or solicitor who may give 30 mins for free, rather than looking at chatrooms which are in most cases ran by IP firms.
Charlotte says
My grandma has sent me a random £500 cheque do I need to declare this? And how will it affect my iva and its payments?
Sara (Debt Camel) says
Most ISAs have a clause which is something like ““after acquired assets” means any asset, windfall or inheritance with a value of more than £500”. If yours does, this means that you don’t have to declare a gift of £500 :)