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DROs – what if my pay increases or I get a lump sum of money?

A Debt Relief Order (DRO) is a simple and cheap alternative to bankruptcy if you are renting and have little money to spare each month to repay debts.

A DRO lasts for 12 months and during this time you must inform the Official Receiver (OR):

  • if you receive any money or other assets, or
  • if your income increases.

If this happens, the OR may ‘revoke‘ your DRO.  That is the legal term for cancelling your DRO so you are back owing your debts.

But this doesn’t always happen – the OR has discretion about whether to revoke a DRO. And it is really rare – only one in a hundred DROs are revoked.

If your DRO is revoked, you may simply be able to apply for another one if your situation changes and you again meet the criteria.

Questions about what happens to a DRO if you get a pay rise or receive a lump sum eg from benefits or inheriting money

Contents

  • The DRO limits on assets and spare income
  • “My income has increased”
  • “I have received some money”
  • DRO revocations are rare!
  • My DRO is being revoked – can I get another DRO?
  • Implications if you are thinking about a DRO

The DRO limits on assets and spare income

(The DRO limits were increased in June 2021. These are the new ones.)

DROs have two important limits which matter if you get some more money:

  1. you cannot get a DRO if you have more than £75 ‘spare’ income each month that you could pay towards your debts;
  2. you cannot get a DRO unless the total value of your assets is less than £2,000. (This is second-hand value, it doesn’t include normal household goods and clothes, you are also allowed a car worth up to £2,000 in addition to this.)

If you get some extra income each month this may take you over the “spare income” limit. If you get a lump sum of money or a valuable gift. this may take you over the total asset limit.

In these cases the Official Receiver will decide if your DRO should continue or if it will be revoked.

“My income has increased”

You usually need to inform the DRO Unit of any increases in your income. The exception is that you don’t have to tell the OR if one of your benefits has gone up, usually in April, because of a small inflation rise.

It is unlikely that small increases will result in revocation unless you were close to the surplus income limit when your DRO started.

Don’t forget that you have to pay tax on a pay increase and your pension contributions may rise. Also any benefits such as Universal Credit, Child Tax Credit etc may be reduced if you are earning more. So you may not be much better off.

Your costs may also have gone up:

  • for example, if your benefits went up because you have had a baby, you will have new expenses to do with the new child;
  • in 2022 inflation is high so a lot of other expenses, from food and petrol to mobiles bills and energy costs may also have gone up.

A new Income and Expenditure assessment may be needed to show whether you are actually left more money after your extra income and increased expenses are all taken into account. Your advisor will be able to help with this. Then you may be able to tell the IS that your income has gone up but explain that here is an income & expenditure sheet that shows you still do not have more than £75 a month spare income.

If your income hasn’t permanently changed, for example you did some overtime one month, then the OR is more likely to treat the extra money as a one-off payment than as additional income.

If you aren’t sure whether you should tell the DRO Unit,
talk to the adviser who set up your DRO as soon as possible.

“I have received some money”

In a DRO, the money you receive is not taken to pay your debts, unlike in bankruptcy or an IVA.

But getting more than £2,000 may mean that Insolvency Service decides to cancel your DRO, leaving you back with your debts.

You must inform the OR about any money or property you receive.  This includes:

  • a bonus from work;
  • a valuable gift;
  • money or property you inherit;
  • money received from claims such as PPI or payday loan refunds;
  • lottery or other gambling winnings;
  • a lump sum from benefits back-dating;
  • a tax refund or correction to your previous year’s tax credits;
  • money from the settlement of a court case.

Do this as soon as possible, even if you think the money is going to be covered by one of the situations mentioned below.

And you should inform them even if the amount you receive is less than £2,000.

If you aren’t sure whether you should tell the DRO Unit,
talk to the adviser that set up your DRO as soon as possible.

Some special cases:

A lump sum from benefits back-dating

Here it depends on what the benefit is.

If the backdating is for PIP, DLA, Attendance Allowance or Severe Disability Premium,  it will be treated as covering additional disability expenses you had. Here your DRO will not be affected even if the lump sum is large.

If you get a lump sum from backdating of other benefits, this is treated as getting a lump sum of money. If it is more than £2000, it could lead to your DRO being ended.

A settlement for a Personal Injury

Sometimes this will not affect your DRO even if it is large. The DRO guidance says:

Personal injury payments received during the [DRO year] will be dealt with depending on the composition of the payments (special and general damages). If the compensation relates solely to general damages and is received during the moratorium period, this will not adversely affect the DRO so long as the funds are used only for living expenses and not converted into tangible assets.

Your solicitor will be able to explain whether you are getting general or special damages, or a mixture. Broadly general damages are compensation for pain and injury and these will be ignored by the OR but you shouldn’t use the money to buy an asset until your DRO has ended.

Inheriting money

What matters here is the date the person died, not the date you actually receive the money. See Inheriting money when in a DMP, DRO, IVA or bankruptcy which looks at this in more detail.

Money for a special purpose

The OR will take this into account. For example, you may have been given a bonus by your employer to spend on training.

DRO revocations are rare!

In November 2018, the 250,000 DRO was set up. At that date there had been 2,437 revocations, so about 1% of all DROs.

Not all those revocations were because of someone getting extra money. They also include all the cases where a DRO was revoked because someone had had debts that exceeded the total limit.

So you can see that the number of people who have problems with additional income or a large windfall is small.

It is extremely rare for a DRO to be revoked after it has completed. These are called Post Moratorium Revocations and the Official Receiver has to go to court to get one. There are less than ten a year.

My DRO is being revoked – can I get another DRO?

If your DRO is being revoked, you need to find an alternative way of dealing with your debts.

Obviously if you have inherited a lot, you can pay all your debts off! Or you could use the windfall to make full and final settlements on your debts.

Another option is a second DRO, if your situation changes so you again qualify. For example if you had a windfall or an inheritance of say £4000 and spent more than £2000 on essential expenditure, then you would again be under the allowed asset limit in a DRO.

(Until recently, it has not been possible to get another DRO soon after one has been revoked as you can’t have more than one DRO in six years. But in 2021 this was challenged in court and the judge overruled the Insolvency Service on the basis that after the revocation the previous DRO no longer existed.)

If you want a second DRO, go back to the adviser who set up the first one and talk them about this.

The other main possibilities are:

  • a Debt Management Plan; or
  • bankruptcy. Bankruptcy has much the same effect on you as a DRO, so you can just use some of the money you have received to pay the bankruptcy fees. Your debt adviser can explain how to apply for bankruptcy.

Implications if you are thinking about a DRO

When you talk to a debt adviser about a DRO, do mention if you think your income may increase soon or you may get a lump sum payment:

  • if you expect your finances to recover quickly – perhaps you expect to be able to get a  new job – then you probably shouldn’t thinking of a DRO.
  • if you think you may get a lump sum in the next twelve months then it would be better to wait and see if this happens before deciding on a DRO. If you get enough money you may not need the DRO at all! And if there isn’t enough money for that, you can still choose to spend some of the extra money on essentials that you need and then go for a DRO.
  • you should avoid starting a DRO if you expect to retire and get a tax free lump sum in the next year.

For all of these “wait and see” situations, look at making token payments instead until you see how things turn out.

But unless you have some specific reason to think things will change in the next year for the better, I wouldn’t let worries about whether your income might increase or you might get a lump sum stop you going for a DRO.

As you can see from the statistics above, revocations are pretty rare!

If you want to know more about DROs read this Guide to Debt Relief Orders.


More Debt Camel articles:

Questions about DRO applications

Apps that make managing money easier

In a DRO what happens if I get a new partner

March 2, 2021 Author: Sara Williams Tagged With: DRO

Comments

  1. Fred says

    October 26, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    Hi. I am thinking of applying for a DRO however I work in hospitality and my hours are business dependent. One month I can earn 900, and then next I might barley scrape my rent. This means I have to be careful with my money and sometimes It looks like I have spare income when in reality I am preparing for the next month.
    Will this be a problem when calculating my income? how does one figure out the fifty pounds spare when you can never be sure of the next months income? Also with covid about I may not have a job one month and be back at work two months later.
    Any hep would be appreciated.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      October 27, 2020 at 8:35 am

      DROs can be possible with very erratic income. I think you need to talk to a debt adviser who will look at your variable income. If you are self employed talk to Business debtline, if employed on a zero hours contract, talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000.

      Reply
  2. Natalia says

    October 31, 2020 at 12:12 am

    Hi,I am on furlough and company that I work for will not support my flex.hours after furlough finishes so most likely I will have to give up work .I have received extra income this month ,student grand, and I am worry that my DOR will be cancelled. I have 2 incomes but I am not touching student loan as later I will need it to pay my bills .I do not know what to do now .My DOR will be cancel now and I will have to apply again later ?I would appreciate any advice .

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      October 31, 2020 at 10:17 am

      You need to talk to the debt adviser who set up your DRO. Student loans are treated differently. Please get some help so you know where you stand.

      Reply
  3. Natalia says

    October 31, 2020 at 12:19 pm

    Thank you !

    Reply
  4. Jessie mill says

    November 9, 2020 at 7:54 pm

    I have a debt relief order (2 months in) can I apply for a budgeting advance from UC? Up to £500? Do I have to notify them

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      November 9, 2020 at 8:20 pm

      Yes you can. No you don’t have to notify them if you are asking for less then £500.

      Reply
  5. Tanya says

    November 29, 2020 at 10:08 am

    Hi, i’m a p/t supply TA in school with regular hours until Christmas. I also top up the hours with teaching. The money I earn varies a lot and i will earn nothing in the holidays. I’m thinking of a DRO as I meet the criteria – however what if the income would go over the spare £50?
    Thanks

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      November 29, 2020 at 11:56 am

      You can have a DRO with an erratic income. I suggest you talk to National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 who will look at your income and the rest of your situation and say if you qualify.

      Reply
  6. Jonathon says

    February 20, 2021 at 10:20 pm

    Hi, i received a DRO in august 2017, and it ended exactly 12 months later. However there is a possibility that i will be receiving a large amount of money from the sale of a house owned by a late family member. Will this have an impact to the DRO that i had or the accounts that it was requested to help with? or can i just collect the money and carry on since the DRO ceased?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 21, 2021 at 6:34 am

      Your DRO has completed, your debts no longer exist and any inheritance is all yours.

      Reply
      • Jonathon says

        February 21, 2021 at 6:41 am

        So I have no worries about the people I got the DRO from coming after the money?

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          February 21, 2021 at 6:43 am

          None. Enjoy!

          Reply
          • Jonathon says

            February 21, 2021 at 6:48 am

            Thank you.

  7. Charlie Turner says

    March 21, 2021 at 8:29 am

    Hi,

    I’ve recently started a DRO and now I’m looking to get into employment again.
    I usually work though agencies and on zero hour contracts so my wage differs from month to month.
    I’m just wondering how can I explain a varied income that won’t always be the same to the OR?

    Reply
    • Weatherman says

      March 22, 2021 at 9:55 am

      Hi Charlie

      When you say you recently started a DRO, do you mean an application or that the application has been accepted & the moratorium has started?

      The DRO Intermediary (who submits your application) and the OR should take a 3-month average of your earnings. If you have a ‘good’ 3 months before/during the moratorium and earn enough that it takes your disposable income over the £50 a month average threshold, then it might mean you don’t qualify or that the Order is cancelled. It’s also worth noting, however, that there’s no requirement on you to work as much as you can during the moratorium period – so you could just make sure don’t earn too much in that time.

      Reply
  8. Magda says

    March 26, 2021 at 4:25 pm

    Hi
    I have dro since 3months. My income might slightly increase as I will get back to work part time but same time my expenses will rise too. Will my dro be revoked?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      March 26, 2021 at 6:13 pm

      From what you have said, that sounds unlikely. If you are getting any benefits they may also fall a bit?
      Talk to your DRO adviser about this.

      Reply
  9. M. Heath says

    April 2, 2021 at 10:47 am

    I get working tax credit and Martin Lewis says we will all get extra £500 in April

    Will this affect my DRO which has only started this year.?

    Reply
    • Weatherman says

      April 2, 2021 at 6:24 pm

      Hi,

      It shouldn’t do – but you should inform the Official Receiver anyway.

      This amount is not treated as taxable income (so doesn’t affect other benefits, nor do you have to declare it on a Self-Assessment tax form). And the increase to the weekly amount of Working Tax Credits in April 2020 did not affect ongoing DROs. I haven’t been able to find confirmation that the same is true for this lump sum, but it has clearly been designed to be equivalent to a further six months of a £20-a-week increase. So I think it’s very unlikely it will affect your DRO.

      Even if this is treated as a ‘lump sum’, then because its value is under £1,000, your DRO won’t be revoked if you have notified the DRO Unit promptly and the money is less than half of your debts. So to be on the safe side, I would tell the DRO Unit when you receive the payment, but it won’t affect anything.

      Reply
  10. carmen says

    April 27, 2021 at 12:16 pm

    Hello,

    If universal credit has gone up due to April’s new rates, would i need to inform the DRO unit? gone up by around £5 only. So not like its a big sum. Would this affect my DRO.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      April 27, 2021 at 1:02 pm

      In theory you need to tell the DRO Unit of increases in your income. In practice they won’t care about this change in UC rate. Also you may have had other expenses that have also gone up, eg council tax or utilities?
      You can just send the DRO Unit an email – there seems little reason to worry about this affecting your DRO.

      Reply
  11. Yasmin says

    April 29, 2021 at 10:08 pm

    Hi,

    Quick question. My DRO was approved on 30 March 2021. However this May 2021 I may get an increase in my Universal Credit of about £500 due to becoming the main carer of my two children. Should I inform the official receiver of this increase in my Universal Credit? The increase will not actually leave me with any money left as this money goes straight to my Children and I won’t be spending it on myself or anything.

    Should I worry about this increase or should I call Stepchange and let them know ?
    Thank you

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      April 30, 2021 at 6:54 am

      Yes you should tell the official receiver about this increase but also explain the reasons – because your expenses have increased you won’t actually have any extra spare money each month. If you are worried about doing this, talk to StepChange first.

      Reply
  12. Roxanne says

    June 8, 2021 at 2:22 am

    I’m on uc and looking to get a DRO ASAP will it affect my claim at all

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 8, 2021 at 6:47 am

      A DRO will not affect your Uc.

      Reply
  13. Craig says

    June 9, 2021 at 12:35 pm

    Hello, my income is approx £33k/year can I still take out a DRO if I fit all the other criteria?
    Regards

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 9, 2021 at 12:46 pm

      yes, there is no limit on the income. Talk to an adviser asap, I suggest National Debtline on 0808 808 4000.

      Reply
      • Craig says

        June 10, 2021 at 6:01 pm

        Thank you.
        Do you know how it works regarding living with a partner and taking in to consideration their income to the household even though all the debt is mine?
        Also will I need to give them copies of my wage slips/bank statements as I currently don’t have any of them.
        Thanks

        Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 10, 2021 at 6:24 pm

      It is normal for your partner’s income to be taken into consideration to determine how much of the bills each of you should pay. So if you earn twice as much as your partner, you would be expected to pay 2/3 of the rent, utilities, council tax etc.

      It’s up to the debt adviser you talk to what they want to see by way of pay slips, bank statements etc. presumably you can get these if you need them?

      I think you should talk to a debt adviser now. A DRO could be perfect for you, or you may not be eligible, or there may be better options – if you have big enough debt problems to be thinking about a DRO then you need good advice immediately. I suggest you phone National Debtline on 0808 808 4000.

      Reply
      • Craig says

        June 10, 2021 at 7:36 pm

        Ok thanks.
        I can get the required documents.
        I have debt to a family member would this have to be added to the DRO or can I keep this separate?
        Regards

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          June 10, 2021 at 8:10 pm

          all debts have to go into the DRO. Of course there is nothing to stop you making gifts to the family member later on… but when your DRO adviser works out how much “spare income” you have each month, payments to your relative will not be allowable as expenses.

          Reply
  14. Mj90 says

    June 16, 2021 at 10:18 pm

    I’m looking to take out a DRO however I have a student loan/grant scheduled for August
    £1500 grant
    £350 maintenance loan
    I will not get any other money from student finance until October 2022
    I’m not sure how this is taken into account, If it will have a detrimental impact on a DRO getting approved.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 17, 2021 at 6:26 am

      I don’t think it will be a problem – DROs for students are pretty normal. Talk to a debt adviser such as National Debtline on 0808 808 4000 about your situation.

      Reply
  15. Paul says

    June 28, 2021 at 3:26 pm

    Hi Sara … I completed a DRO that went through on 14th April 2021. Friday I received notification that I was due a tax rebate that I was not aware of at the time of doing the DRO and is due to be paid back to me in my bank for £1299.99. I have contacted the DRO as was the right thing to do but I have also stated that I was not aware I would receive this. My salary has not changed and I do not expect another lump sum before my DRO ends or a salary change. I have also said that if they remove my DRO then it will put me right back into the same situation I was trying to eleviate from as I had balances over £14k in total being included. I have done as they have advised but what are now the outcomes of being honest with the DRO?

    Thanks

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 28, 2021 at 3:52 pm

      So the DRO Unit will make a decision as to whether your DRO should be revoked.
      Can you let me know what happens?
      If it is revoked, then your simplest option is probably to apply promptly for bankruptcy – the tax rebate giving you the money to pay the bankruptcy application fee. Talk to the adviser who set up your DRO to see if you have any other sensible options.

      Reply
  16. jimbob says

    June 28, 2021 at 6:55 pm

    I have discussed with you previously about inheriting while in a dro. I got it wrong about amount. Apparently the amount literally matches the debt in the DRO. Does that mean you are legally obliged to clear it

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 28, 2021 at 8:19 pm

      No. But her DRO will be revoked, so that would probably be a sensible option. What sort of debts were in her DRO?

      Reply
      • jimbob says

        June 28, 2021 at 8:46 pm

        3 credit cards and 2 store cards. 5.6k on ccs and 600 pound on scs. Main reason for asking as mentioned before some home improvements desperately needed. Income and expenditure very close and take many months to save enough

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          June 28, 2021 at 9:57 pm

          I think she (or you) need to talk to the adviser that set up this DRO about her full situation. She could look at making dome settlement offers. But she needs someone to help her decide what to do in detail and that person is not me.

          Reply
  17. jimbob says

    June 28, 2021 at 10:19 pm

    One other query i have understanding what i read. A CAB piece talks about creditor actions upon DRO revoked. Comments about interest lost being applied. My example could this be right. Vanquis credit card. Roughly before dro interest and charges 130 per month. Probate say takes 6 months. Could that mean possibly 800 pound being added to balance when they pursue you again

    Im probably over thinking.. Probably trying to cover too many basis too soon

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 29, 2021 at 6:13 am

      It would be unusual for a credit card to do that.
      But she does need to wait and see how this goes. There is always the option of spending some of the money on essentials and going bankrupt.

      Reply
      • jimbob says

        June 29, 2021 at 9:00 am

        Thanks for that. As you say just wait now as it could be nearly a year away and then follow our advisers advice. If all the cards followed a procedure of adding lost interest could be 1000s more. Its just the article seems to come across as though they do add lost interest. Thanks again for all the great work and help you have been to me and many others

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          June 29, 2021 at 9:52 am

          If all the cards followed a procedure of adding lost interest could be 1000s more.
          That is very unlikely to happen.

          Reply
          • jimbob says

            June 29, 2021 at 11:09 am

            Just managed to ask the CAB. They advised creditors would just start to re-apply charges from date of DRO revocation.

          • Sara (Debt Camel) says

            June 29, 2021 at 11:13 am

            That sounds much more likely.

  18. jimbob says

    June 29, 2021 at 12:58 pm

    Unfortunately they have now totally changed the goalposts. Apparently the dro will bbe revoked from date of death. They say it is classed as an asset now not when money received. CAB suggest disclaim. Stepchange suggest that is illegally disposing of asset to avoid paying your debts. Really getting confusing and scary now

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 29, 2021 at 1:23 pm

      No they haven’t changed the goal posts – the date of death always was the relevant time as I said before https://debtcamel.co.uk/proposed-dro-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-424435. And I said there that she can disclaim…

      But I don’t understand why you are panicking, I thought you had accepted that the DRO will be revoked and it was a question of what she should do next?

      Reply
  19. Sarah says

    July 1, 2021 at 9:33 am

    Hi Sara, just wondered if you could help my partner has an iva but I think a dro would be a better option for him,but my only concern is twice a year he gets a bonus from work which we use for Christmas and birthdays the amount differs each time as its all depends on profits for the company he works at the money could be any where upto £4000 for the year, do you think this would be a problem for him, he would tell the adviser in the beginning when applying for the dro. Thanks for your help.
    Sarah

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 1, 2021 at 9:51 am

      If he receives more than £2000 during the twelve months of a DRO it is very likely to be cancelled.

      How far through the IVA is he?

      Reply
      • Sarah says

        July 2, 2021 at 11:03 am

        Hi, ok thank you. He’s 15months into his IVA. I just don’t feel its the right option for him,someone phoned him from a company and just went ahead with it, they’ve already increased his payments from £101 to £131 but when you look at the calculations they have done it shows he only has a £100 a month left after paying everything plus the my money they took in to calculations us wrong by £22.20 a month its not alot but it is if you don’t have it.

        Thanks for your help
        Sarah.

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          July 2, 2021 at 11:46 am

          How much will they be taking of his bonus?
          He should object if your money is incorrect.

          Reply
          • Sarah says

            July 2, 2021 at 1:45 pm

            In the last phone call they said they will adding on £400 to the end of term so if that goes on every year we are looking at an extra £2000 at the end!
            Yes he is going to phone them about it.
            Its with a company called creditfix have you head of them?

            Sarah

        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          July 2, 2021 at 5:27 pm

          how large were the debts going into the IVA?

          Reply
          • Sarah says

            July 2, 2021 at 6:25 pm

            It was just under £20,000.

  20. Alice karlo says

    July 2, 2021 at 9:33 am

    Hi I got a debt relief order in oct 2020. I have had a housing disrepair claim finalised for £850 that is supposed to be reaching me as soon as the repairs are carried out in September 2021. Will this effect my dro ? Thankyou

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      July 2, 2021 at 9:52 am

      You do need to tell the Insolvency Service about getting it, but that should be OK if it is the only lump sum payment you have received during the DRO.

      Hopefully that will be a good end to the DRO year for you with your debts gone, your repairs carried out and a bit of money in the bank!

      Reply
  21. Sandra says

    September 4, 2021 at 11:36 pm

    Hi, I have a DRO since beginning of August but just been notified I will be getting a back payment from PIP which will be about £3000.
    This lump of money is very unexpected, receiving it after appealing to tribunal and I never thought i will be awarded PIP as its been going on for more than a year now… and I understand PIP back payment shouldn’t affect DRO? However what are the chances DRO will be revoked as PIP payment is more than £2000?
    Total debt on DRO is £9000. Thank you

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      September 5, 2021 at 8:52 am

      if this backdating is ONLY for PIP, then there should not be a problem. As the article above says:

      If the backdating is for PIP, DLA, Attendance Allowance or Severe Disability Premium, it will be treated as covering additional disability expenses you had, and your DRO will not be affected.

      But if some of it is for extra disability premiums you will now get on other benefits because you are getting PIP, then that money is considered as a windfall (don’t ask me why, the rules are not sensible, I am just saying what they are.)

      If you are “only” getting £3,000 back, then my guess is that most of that is for PIP itself… In which case you should probably be OK if the non-PIP part is less than £2,000…

      BUT you need to tell the DRO Unit about this extra money even if it is only for PIP. Talk to your DRO adviser if you aren’t sure about your situation or what to say to the DRO Unit.

      Reply
  22. CJ says

    October 1, 2021 at 3:34 pm

    Hi, please can you help? I am 1 month into my DRO, however the company I work for have been taken over and our salaries are being reviewed – it looks like I might be getting an extra £1500 gross per year. Will this extra money affect my DRO? My total debts are £17,000.
    Thanks, CJ

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      October 1, 2021 at 4:22 pm

      When your debt adviser drew up your income & expenditure, do you remember how much they thought you were left with each month?

      Are you getting any benefits at the moment?

      Are your energy bills going to increase?

      Reply
  23. Jamie says

    October 14, 2021 at 11:27 am

    Hi Sara
    I’ve been in my DRO since May this year but have been made redundant as the company has gone insolvent.
    I’m entitled to about £4,500 in redundancy.
    Will be DRO get revoked due to this.
    Thank you.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      October 14, 2021 at 11:35 am

      Can you say something about your situation? How large were the debts that went into your DRO? Do you have any other debts? Any rent arrears you are still paying?
      What is your chance of getting a better paying job now?

      Reply
      • Jamie says

        October 14, 2021 at 11:42 am

        Thanks for your reply. Very appreciated.
        I was officially made redundant on 10 Sept and have applied for Universal Credit.
        I live on my own, debts approx 15K that went into the DRO. I have no debts now and no rent arrears. Should be able to get a job on roughly the same income but currently looking.

        Reply
        • Jamie says

          October 15, 2021 at 9:43 am

          Hi Sara
          I have let the OR know of my situation.
          If my DRO was to be revoked could I apply for Bankruptcy from the proceeds of my redundancy?
          Would the remainder of my redundancy be taken from me at that time?
          Thanks

          Reply
  24. jason says

    October 17, 2021 at 1:39 pm

    i worked for my company for 18 years and had to take redundancy , £11000 my dro was for 18k so if i was to inform the DRO team obviously the amount received is less than the debts, so what would they do? take all of it and pay off my debts and leave the dro standing, or would they leave me with 2k as asset , also i didnt think i needed to tell them as it was my money for working for 18 years, how would they know if i didnt tell them?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      October 17, 2021 at 2:01 pm

      You have to tell them about the redundancy, it is a criminal offence not to.

      The DRO Unit has discretion about what to do, but as you are getting such a very large amount it is almost certain that your DRO would be “revoked” – this means it is cancelled, leaving you back with the debts. You should assume this will happen.

      They cannot take the money – they do not have the legal right to do this, it isn’t going to happen.

      what sort of debts were in your DRO?

      How long will it be before you can find another job?

      Reply
      • Jason Tedford says

        October 19, 2021 at 8:09 pm

        2 credit cards, 2 loans and a 9 k bank loan

        Reply
  25. Jackie says

    December 17, 2021 at 3:24 pm

    Hi Sara,

    I have a DRO and February 2022 will be 12 months. I was very unwell during that period hence the DRO. However I feel a bit better & have applied for some jobs. I got a job offer for 40,000 pa but worry my DRO will be revoked if I take the job. If it is revoked, my debts will be high and might not have enough to live on. Is it advisable to just leave the job offer and take on employment after Feb 2022? Thanks!

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      December 18, 2021 at 11:33 am

      40k sounds like a lot. You could talk to the adviser who set up your DRO, they will know the details of your situation, but you may well have moe than £75 a month “disposable income” so your DRO may be revoked.

      You may decide you would prefer not to take this job. Partly it depends on how much you want *this8 job – if it’s your perfect job and it will be hard to get another then turning it down may not be a good idea and you can talk to your debt adviser about how to manage the debts if your DRO is revoked.

      Partly it depends on your heath. “A bit better” are you sure you are well enough to go back?

      Reply
  26. jacqueline says

    December 24, 2021 at 10:45 pm

    Thank you for your reply, very much appreciated. I have spoken to the company that handled the DRO and they advised to wait until it the DRO is discharged. So I hope to wait it out and look for alternative jobs in the meantime. Thanks very much

    Reply
  27. jimbob says

    December 25, 2021 at 8:11 pm

    Spoke before about my daughter to inherit during DRO. Outcome is Insolvency Service to revoke soon and back to creditors. One of which had previously upped and upped credit limit to unaffordable levels. Can we consider making one of these complaints when we deal with them again.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      December 26, 2021 at 10:38 am

      How large was this debt?
      What was the total of her debts in her DRO?
      How long had she had this account?

      Reply
  28. jimbob says

    December 26, 2021 at 11:09 am

    DRO total debts 6.3k. Credit card a/c opened Feb 2017 with initial limit 300 pounds. By May 2021 credit limit was at 3.5k. plus interest 3.7k at point of DRO granted. Her income was PIP and ESA benefits.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      December 27, 2021 at 5:35 pm

      was she only paying the minimum amounts to this card when they increased her limit.

      Reply
      • jimbob says

        December 27, 2021 at 6:34 pm

        Yes. After each increase quickly to the max. Then minimum payments and keep using difference between limit and interest. Consequently debt never decreasing. This was every month. Company policy said they saw this as being an excellent customer and well run account.

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          December 27, 2021 at 7:57 pm

          Company policy said they saw this as being an excellent customer and well run account.
          does that mean she has already complained?

          Reply
          • jimbob says

            December 27, 2021 at 8:51 pm

            No sorry. This is what they said with the increases. They could see account was always at max but kept increasing limit.
            Just a side note. Many many comments out there about this company. Customers keeping well within credit limit and good payers refused increases for emergencies. Those always at their limit keep getting increases thrown at them.

          • Sara (Debt Camel) says

            December 27, 2021 at 9:58 pm

            oh don’t pay any attention to that. get her to send in a complaint now. It may well be rejected so will have to go to the Ombudsman. At some point she will have to decide whether to carry on with this complaint or go bankrupt, but no need to make this decision now.

  29. jimbob says

    December 28, 2021 at 2:02 am

    OK thanks for that. Was unsure if we could make a complaint after DRO revocation.

    Just so i am clear. Insolvency Service say DRO will be revoked Feb 4th 2022 so technically still in it. Does that affect the timing of the unaffordability complaint being submitted.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      December 28, 2021 at 5:01 pm

      The reason most people should not make a complaint when they are in a DRO is that if they get a refund, the DRO will be revoked – not a problem in this case!

      Reply
      • jimbob says

        December 28, 2021 at 5:08 pm

        Thank you very much for the advice. Very clear about it now. Hope you have a great new year.

        Reply
  30. Ffion Evans says

    January 7, 2022 at 1:29 pm

    Hi am going through a DRO 4 months now and I have applied for a advance payment of £800 to get a new washing machine do I still need to tell the DRO ?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      January 7, 2022 at 1:55 pm

      is this a budgeting advance or a budgeting loan, eg from Universal Credit?
      (PS thats an expensive washing machine!)

      Reply
      • Ffion Evans says

        January 7, 2022 at 2:16 pm

        It was a budgeting advance. The washing machine i needed cost over £400 and the rest went on other things

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          January 7, 2022 at 2:30 pm

          No you don’t have to tell the DRO about this.

          Reply
  31. Suz says

    January 9, 2022 at 12:29 pm

    Hi My Dro began the start of October I’m a single mum on uc, but uc are ringing me weekly to get me back into employment, Iv been offered a job 16 hours a week, will this mess with my dro? The last thing I want is it being evoked. Thank you

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      January 9, 2022 at 3:14 pm

      Have you looked at how your benefits would change if you took this job? It can be complicated, as you will have extra income but your UC will reduce and you may have extra costs eg travel to work, childcare. You may also find your council tac reduction drops, so there will be extra there.
      A starting point would be for you to pretend you take this job and put the likely numbers into a benefit calculator eg https://benefits-calculator-2.turn2us.org.uk/.
      Then you can talk to the advisor that set up your DRO about whether this job would affect your DRO.

      A lot of single mums on 16 hourse low paid work are still eligible for a DRO.

      Reply
  32. Sam says

    February 5, 2022 at 7:28 pm

    Hi I’ve recently started a DRO. it’s gone through the stage where I should hear back in 10 days if I get it or not. My question is I made the people aware that I will be getting made redundant which was 5 weeks into my breathing space and final draft of my paperwork had been sent etc. My redundancy date is mid April 22 and I will be getting 5 weeks pay worth of redundancy. Little over 2k but my car requires a fair bit of work dpf filter change £500+ thats without tyres that will need changing by then too I was going to look at using this to fix the car up and the job roles I’ve got interviews for if I get any of them I will require suits shirts ties shoes etc and was looking to use the redundancy payment to pay that lot otherwise I would not have the right clothing for the new job roll. Or my only other option would be to leave my current job don’t get the redundancy and sell my commute motorbike little over 1000 and get the job clothing and fix the car. ( the bike is down as an asset while the car is main mode of transport as otherwise i will not get to see my kids that i have with the ex). The car is a battered 10 reg but has 7 seats due to my 3 kids with an ex and new baby with current partner who I do not live with and I have a dog so the 7 seater is a must as I pick my kids up on weekends I have them and boot large enough to put bits in and the dog too.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 5, 2022 at 8:03 pm

      if your DRO application has been submitted you should know within a few days. What did your DRO adviser say about the redundancy options?

      Reply
  33. Sam says

    February 5, 2022 at 10:56 pm

    Just they would make a note of it. I informed of the amount and the plan of action going fwd job wise as I would need to buy as stated clothing suit wise etc ( not something I’ve had to do in years and do not own any at all that would fit me now. As job role is within automotive industry in parts but dealing with public and their dress code is smart and the car also needs work ( I tried doing cheap fix by getting some spray but didn’t work so that was £20 a family member gifted me as a Xmas gift but nearly 5 weeks later the warning flagged up again. I mean if it goes through all OK would I be good to do the 2nd option ( that I really don’t want to do but will if I must to obtain the funds ).

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 6, 2022 at 7:53 am

      You need to go back to them and talk through you4 options as they know your current finances in detail.

      Reply
  34. Jade says

    May 2, 2022 at 9:18 am

    I have a query about the information showing on my credit file. I had a Dro March 2017 for 19k. I am now approaching 6 years and would like to get my credit looking good. The accounts included in my DRO are showing as open on there still. Is that correct or should they be showing as closed? Thanks

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      May 2, 2022 at 10:07 am

      This is wrong. See https://debtcamel.co.uk/repair-credit-record-dro/ which explains what should show and how to get creditors to correct it.

      Reply
  35. Beth says

    May 3, 2022 at 11:15 pm

    Hello, my DRO. Started March 4th 2022.. I’ve just been offered a good paid job, and wondered the possibility of my DRO BEING REVOKED, Non the less I dont mind it being revoked so I can pay the debts, my question is, if it is revoked because I have enough money to pay the debts, is it still on my credit file for the 6 years, or does it get revoked and take off my credit file?
    Hope that makes sense.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      May 4, 2022 at 11:25 am

      I suggest you talk to the adviser that set up your DRO about whether it may be revoked. A well paid job is great, but you will probably lose benefits and expenses such as energy bills, petrol, council tax etc have all gone up.

      If it is revoked, the adviser can help you look at your options to repay the debts.

      It will remain on your credit record for the rest of the 6 years.

      Reply
  36. Joe says

    May 4, 2022 at 9:29 pm

    Hi
    I am 3 months into my DRO, it looks like I could be due to start over time in September for 3 months. It would mean I will earn slightly more, will this affect my DRO?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      May 4, 2022 at 9:35 pm

      Talk to your DRO adviser about this now – with everything going up in price, getting some more income may not leave you with that much extra spare money.

      Reply
  37. C says

    May 11, 2022 at 8:42 pm

    I’m currently 20 months into an iva and I’ve been struggling for a while now but they won’t reduce my payments. My iva is £100 pcm original debts 7k, 10k with iva fees. If I was to let my iva fail and go onto a DRO(will check I’m eligible first) I had no idea about DROs. When a DRO starts will it start a new 6 year mark on my credit file or go back to when the debt was defaulted at the start of my iva?

    As well as the above, would my iva fees (if not yet paid) be included in the DRO?

    I really appreciate your advice, I’ve been reading as much as I can on your site and comments but couldn’t find an answer to this.

    Thanks.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      May 13, 2022 at 9:51 am

      When a DRO starts will it start a new 6 year mark on my credit file or go back to when the debt was defaulted at the start of my iva?
      It starts a new 6 year period. Annoying, but when you are less than 2 years in, it is pretty much a no brainer to switch to a DRO if you are eligible. If you are struggling now, this will get even worse in October when energy prices go up again by possibly a third. the chance of your IVA completing doesn’t sound good.

      I suggest you take advice about a DRO as soon as possible.

      would my iva fees (if not yet paid) be included in the DRO?
      In practice unpaid IVA fees just seem to disappear. But if the IVA firm says you do owe them, then yes, they can be listed in your DRO.

      PS I will move this thread to https://debtcamel.co.uk/end-iva-change-to-dro/ in a couple of days as it is more relevant

      Reply
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