If you have too much debt, you may not want to do anything that will harm your credit score.
But do you have any better alternatives? That depends on three factors:
- what is your credit record like at the moment? If it isn’t good, then it isn’t worth trying to protect! Check your credit score now, so you have accurate information.
- can you make the monthly payments to your debts? The answer completely changes the options you have for getting your debts down.
- is it really likely your situation is going to improve in the next few months? Hoping for a lottery win doesn’t count!
Let’s look at some typical situations to see how the different answers to these questions affect what your good choices might be.
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Mr A – very good credit rating, can just afford the monthly payments
His very good credit rating can be a very useful tool in helping with Mr A’s debts because it may allow him to refinance some debt to reduce the interest he pays.
He could look for a 0% balance transfer. Or consider a cheap consolidation loan. Both of those options need a pretty good credit score so protecting it is important for him. He may find this slow going at the start, but as he pays off some debt, he pays less interest and the balances start to drop faster. This is often called snowballing.
Mr A may wonder if a payment arrangement on any of his debts would help speed this up. His creditors probably wouldn’t offer one as he can afford the minimums, and if they did, the arrangement would harm his credit score, making it harder to deal with his other debts.
Ms B – good credit rating, card balances going up each month
Ms B hasn’t missed any payments but is worried that her debts keep going up. She often has to pay for some of her regular bills and groceries with her credit cards and is in her overdraft for most of the month.
A debt adviser will point out that she actually can’t afford her monthly debt repayments – she is only staying afloat by borrowing. This gets her through this month but it increases her minimum payments the next month, so she has to borrow more.
The increasing balances on her credit cards will start to affect her credit score. And, as her debt increases, any new credit she gets will tend to be more expensive.
Choosing payment arrangements or a debt management plan, this will affect her credit record. There is no “magic option” that will let her pay less than the regular monthly payments and not harm her credit score. But realistically her only choice is to do this now, or struggle on for months or years then do it with much more debt, which will take much longer to pay off.
Mr & Mrs C – can’t get a consolidation loan
Mr C was hoping to get a large consolidation loan to repay a lot of other debts. He did this a couple of years ago, but their credit card balances have grown again and they are now having difficulty managing the card repayments as they are still repaying the previous consolidation loan. They have applied for a new large consolidation loan but been rejected.
This can feel frustrating because they know the repayments on a consolidation loan would be more affordable. But to a lender, giving them a big loan looks too risky, even though they both have OK credit ratings.
They are worried about any debt solutions as they see a consolidation loan in the future as their best option. But Mr and Mrs C need to look at debt options such as a debt management plan.
A debt adviser can help them explore if they have any better alternatives, but unless they can significantly reduce other expenses they need some form of debt solution. Their credit record isn’t really relevant here because there are no options that let them protect their credit record and get the lower payments they need.
Mrs D – wants to avoid defaults
Mrs D has payment arrangements with her credit card and a couple of catalogues. They have said they won’t add defaults, which she is happy about.
These arrangements were made two years ago when she was on maternity leave. She had hoped to go back to normal payments when she was back at work, but childcare costs meant this wasn’t possible. She has had to borrow some more money recently at a high rate of interest to pay some bills.
Mrs D’s problems are getting worse. She may want to carry on with her current payment arrangements, but they are too high for her to manage. She is probably going to struggle repaying the new credit in a few months. She needs to take some debt advice about her options, even though they may involve defaults.
Also these payment arrangements will be damaging her credit score for many years. A default would drop off after six years, but payment arrangements will stay for six years after the balance is settled.
Mr E – in a DMP but advised to go bankrupt
Mr E is in his mid 30s and has been in a DMP for a year after his income dropped with Covid-19 and he originally took payment breaks. He is paying about £150 a month, but it will take more than fifteen years to repay all his debts. His DMP firm originally said he should go bankrupt, but Mr E was hoping to avoid that. At his first DMP annual review, his situation hasn’t changed much and bankruptcy has again been suggested as his energy bills will be going up so his DMP payments have to be reduced.
Mr E’s main concern is that he wants to be able to get a mortgage in future.
But Mr E has little chance of ever getting a mortgage on the course he is currently on. It’s going to take too long to repay his debts, then he would need to save a deposit.
He shouldn’t let what is little more than a fantasy about buying a house in future stop him from taking the right decision about his debts now.
There is no simple answer to how to solve a big debt problem and put yourself in the best position to get a mortgage afterwards. But if you don’t solve the debt problem you have no chance!
Bankruptcy will be on your credit record for six years. During that time you won’t be able to get a mortgage. This also applies to an IVA or a DRO – all types of insolvency have the same effect on your credit record and chances of a mortgage afterwards.
After the six years, mortgage lenders often ask whether you have been bankrupt or had an IVA. But if you have a good deposit, then there are high street lenders that will give you a mortgage after the six years has finished.
Miss F – getting letters about persistent credit card debt but is worried about future mortgage
Miss F has several credit cards and the balances have been going up. Her credit record isn’t good as she is using a lot of her credit limit and has been late paying a couple of times.
Some of the cards have written to her about persistent credit card debt suggesting she has to pay more or they will suspend her account.
She thinks she can make the minimum payments but it’s a struggle and she knows she can’t pay more, but she is worried that asking for a payment arrangement will harm her credit score and she wants to buy a house in few years.
Miss F needs to be realistic. With her increasing debts she has no chance of saving a deposit for a mortgage. She needs help to get her debts under control so they are dropping every month.
She could talk to the credit cards about whether they can help her by freezing interest on her debts and if they say No, she should talk to a debt adviser about a DMP.
Mr G – temporary drop in income
Mr G is a cab driver who has broken his wrist and won’t be able to work for 2-3 months. Before he was managing the repayments on his credit cards without a problem. He has a card with a low balance and he is thinking of using that to make the repayments to his other cards as well as for daily living expenses until he is back to work.
This can be a difficult decision. If it was definitely only for 1 or 2 months, and Mr G is sure that he will be able to make the repayments when he is back at work, then perhaps…
But it’s very easy for your debts to spiral out of control when you do this. And his return to work may take longer than he hopes.
With a temporary problem, often the best thing is to ask your creditors for a payment break.
Don’t let credit score fears stop you from sorting out your debts
Fears about credit ratings can be a big blocker to making progress with your debts.
If you can’t afford the monthly payments, your credit rating is going to suffer. Payment arrangements, DMPs, DROs, IVAs, bankruptcy etc all leave marks on your credit file.
StepChange has surveyed people who had not made any progress three months after getting advice about their debt options. 15% of them said that concerns about their credit records had stopped them taking action.
Time heals credit records – most problems disappear after six years. But time on its own doesn’t solve debt difficulties unless you take action.
Borrowing more to protect your credit score just makes your problem larger and harder to sort out.
Tim Harness says
As Usual,good advice given by The Debt Camel!
Iona says
Hi Sara,
Thank you for the info. I’ve had small on and off debts (payday loans, phone contracts mostly) over maybe the last 10 years or so. Over the last year I’ve worked hard to get things under control, it’s never been a crazy amount of debt, never anything over £3,000 or so but it has been continuous. So far my I’ve got:
Default with Halifax student overdraft £1150 (special arrangement in place)
Lowell (from EE) £238
EE £120
Aqua credit card Defaulted too £560
This year I’ve paid off other things but scattered small amounts. These above are the main ones. I am concerned mostly about the defaults which are aqua and Halifax. I’ve finally got my head screwed on, but now I’m wondering how the future will look if I apply for a mortgage once qualified (will be a part time masters student again for 3 years) I aim to have all these debts settled 12 months from now. I had a look at my Equifax report but I find it all a bit confusing and wondered if you can answer this for me: if I have old closed (and paid in full!) debts with payday loans, telecommunications etc, can a mortgage lender see this in a few years if they haven’t defaulted? Is it only defaults they can see? And lastly, do you know anything about reaching out to companies from past debt and asking as a goodwill gesture that they be deleted?
Thanks 😊
Sara (Debt Camel) says
Any debts which have been defaulted drop off your credit record 6 years after the default date. So you need to know the default dates on the aqua and Halifax accounts are.
Any debts which have been settled, fully or partially, will drop off your credit record 6 years after the settlement date, or the date the account was closed.
Payday loans in the last year are a big No for a mortgage. there are high street lenders who don’t mind if you have olde payday loans than that.
Mortgage lenders prefer no defaults obviously. But if the defaults are all old (over 3 years ) and paid off more than a year ago, you may be ok to get a mortgage at an OK rate form a high street lender. but who knows what the mortgage market will look like in a year, let alone 3+ years for you?
You should always avoid applying to any lender that you have had problems with in the past eg Halifax. In fact go through a mortgage broker.
do you know anything about reaching out to companies from past debt and asking as a goodwill gesture that they be deleted?
it is VERY unlikely to work. Deleting a debt in this situation breaks the credit reporting rules. I suggest you don’t waste time and mental energy in asking for this.
Ffionpearl says
This is what I (an adviser) struggle to explain to clients who have the “fantasy” about keeping good credit even when their finances won’t stretch to servicing their debts. They don’t want to let go of the illusion that good credit is more helpful than a sensible debt option. It isn’t and if it’s not affordable then inevitability it will come to an end anyway and defaults will occur.
Best default asap as credit will repair quicker than if you drag it out. Get that default on and your report more quickly. The interest stops with default and then 6 years after default it’s off your credit again.I’m glad Sara has written a piece I can direct people to
Barry St. John says
I wasted thousands of pounds in completely unnecessary interest and additional loans trying desperately to protect my credit rating and avoid defaults. The lightbulb moment came for me when I finally realised that if I have been in persistent debt for 15 years, then borrowing isn’t for me, and I really shouldn’t have any credit of any kind – I don’t actually need a credit rating. I already managed to get a mortage with my partner, so I suddenly realised that I just needed to close these debts as fast as possible for as little as possible. Started playing the DMCs at their own game, and with confidence growing, managed to get payday loans refunded, defaults added earlier, and then full and final settlements out of the rest. I think I ended up paying £9,600 back out of over £30,000. Now I have 7 defaults, all with about 3 years to go, and don’t owe a penny to anyone. Credit ratings have their uses if you are eternally stuck in the Must Have That cycle, but really, house apart, do you need one? I got a £3000 loan with Everyday Loans which cost £6000 to pay back. All to try and avoid a couple of defaults, that looking back, would have happened anyway further down the line. The whole credit industry is a disgrace – you now have the credit reporting agencies continually pushing credit, and soft searching. What a mess.
Omar says
I done the same thing. Ended up in more debt and ended up entering a DMP to pay my debts back. Was originally paying 222 a month but I increased after a year to 364 a month and will probably increase it again the year after. My issue is the DMP company take almost £80 a month from that and it could be going towards the debt. I tried getting money back from the pay day lenders for irresponsible lending but only received a small small payment back from one lender. Do you think it would be better to contact the lender directly and pay them individually or stick with the DMP. ??
Sara (Debt Camel) says
Hi Omar,
you can run your DMP yourself. But if you like a firm doing it but you just want all the money to go to your debts, talk to StepChange. They can take over your DMP and they don’t charge any fees at all, so all your money goes to your creditors and the DMP will end sooner.
See https://www.stepchange.org/how-we-help/debt-management-plan.aspx for details.
BUT I suggest you wait a couple of weeks to talk to StepChange as they will be very busy with coronavirus stuff.
Omar says
Thank you so much for your response. I will look into that .
Mike says
Hi Sara,
I have the following debts at the moment:
idem (formerly MBNA)
idem (formerly lloyds)
PRA (formerly barclaycard)
I haven’t been on my credit file for a number of years, looking at it yesterday there is no record of the above debts.
Is it correct to think that the 6 years have passed and they have dropped off? (my DMP started 10 years ago) ?
If so, if I was to offer a 10% full and final or stop paying as they are unenforceable as can’t locate agreements can they enter that onto my file again?
Thank you for your advice :)
Sara (Debt Camel) says
Have they said the debts are unenforceable? eg after you asked for the CCA agreement, see https://debtcamel.co.uk/ask-cca-agreement-for-debt/
Mike says
Yes, I sent them letters back in February, they all replied, unable to locate agreements, accounts on hold, currently unenforceable, but they did say they may turn up!
Sara (Debt Camel) says
It sounds likely that they have dropped off. Do check your credit records with all three credit reference agencies, Experian, Equifax and TransUnion. see https://debtcamel.co.uk/best-way-to-check-credit-score/.
Once debts have dropped off, they can never reappear. The chance of a debt collector sending anyone to your house about a debt that is unenforceable is close to zero – why would they waste the money doing that? If they did, they have no right to enter your property.
If you stop paying or offer a F&F then the debts will not reappear. Not sure why you would offer them anything, but that’s up to you.
Mike says
I will hold my nerve and not make an offer..
I have checked all 3 reports and completely clear of them.
Do I be courteous and reply to the DCA or just end contact as the accounts are on hold anyway ?
Thank you again :)
Sara (Debt Camel) says
I would reply saying you don’t intend to make any payments, so it is clear. If you want to make a F&F offer, I suggest waiting until you haven’t paid them for several months, so they realise you mean it.
Mike says
Sounds like a plan. Thank you