Vanquis is repaying £168,000,000 to over a million customers who had its ROP (Repayment Option Plan) on a Vanquis credit card since 2003.
UPDATE In summer 2018 the first refunds were credited to people’s accounts … but they looked surprisingly low. See ROP – the refunds are too small.
In February 2018, the FCA (Vanquis’s regulator) decided this meant that the ROP had been missold to every customer because the true cost of the extra interest they could be paying was not explained to them. It is this extra interest that customers will get back, not the ROP fees themselves. Full details of the refund are given in this FCA notice.
This refund is automatic, if you are affected you will get a letter or an email. But is there anything you need to do? Yes!
If you are still paying the ROP you should cancel it. Also you need to tell Vanquis if you have moved and you may want to complain if you think you should get a refund of the ROP itself.
How the ROP was mis-sold
The ROP product was supposed to be explained to customers in a sales call by Vanquis. But this call made ROP sound quite cheap – “only” £1.29 per £100 balance.
But it wasn’t explained that this ROP charge was added to a customer’s account as a purchase, so if the customer didn’t repay the balance in full, the next month they were then charged interest on top at the interest rate on their card, which could be 40, 50, 60% or more.
This wasn’t a mistake made in a few sales calls. The FCA says:
In 100 per cent of calls reviewed by the FCA, sales agents did not explain the full cost of the product to customers.
The FCA concludes:
Vanquis failed to make sure customers were informed about the full cost of the ROP when it was offered to customers… Customers are entitled to be told all relevant information when being offered financial products… The FCA found that the firm breached Principle 6 (Customers’ interests) & 7 (Communications with clients) of the FCA Principles for Businesses.
The refunds that Vanquis will be paying
Vanquis has agreed to repay the interest it has added on to the ROP charges since 2003. This is not a refund of the ROP charges themselves, but, for many customers, the interest added was a large amount.
These refunds will stop at the date 30 days after Vanquis wrote to customers with ROP in 2017 saying how much they had been charged and asking if they wanted to continue with the product. So if you got this letter in September 2017, your refund will be for the interest added up to the date of the refund on the ROP which was charged up to October 2017.
Vanquis issued other branded cards (Argos, Aquis, Black Diamond, Chrome, Granite, NEO, Origin, Progress, Vanquis and Xylo) – any of these may have had ROP, in which case it will be refunded by Vanquis in the same way a “normal” Vanquis card will be. Check your statement or phone up and ask if you have a card and you are not sure if you were paying ROP.
How much will you get?
The total refunds will be c £168 million. It is said that there will be 1.2 million people affected so the average payment will be about £140.
The calculation is complicated and it will be pretty difficult for you to try to estimate this unless you have all your old statements. But some guidelines:
- people who often cleared their card balance may get very small amounts;
- older accounts where there was normally a large balance may get very large refunds as the compound interest will have added up over time;
- you will get a larger refund if you were paying a higher rate of interest on your card.
Two examples of refunds people have received in the last six months show how the “interest paid” can be very different – larger or smaller – than the amount of ROP paid:
- ROP 547, interest paid 237
- ROP 216, interest paid 1184.
Vanquis say “Vanquis has agreed to refund any interest relating to ROP together with 8% statutory interest to cover any period your account would otherwise have been in credit.” I think this means that for any periods where you weren’t paying interest to Vanquis – including after your account was closed – you will get 8% simple interest added to the refund. If you have 8% added, this will be taxable, but the rest of the refund isn’t.
You won’t get less if you have used any of the ROP features
If you are one of the few people that used the interest freeze, or the larger number that used the “lifeline” facility, this shouldn’t matter. The point is you weren’t told what the full cost of the ROP was, so you will still be getting back the interest you paid on the ROP charges.
How will it be paid?
You need to work out which of the following groups you belong to as the refund process is different for each:
- you have an open account with Vanquis The refund will first be used to pay off your current balance and any additional amount will be sent to you by cheque. You will get an email or a letter from Vanquis explaining this after the refund has been credited to your account. There will be a line on your next monthly statement.
- you have closed the Vanquis account The refund will be sent to you by cheque from Vanquis with a letter explaining it. If you were in arrears and agreed on a partial settlement with Vanquis (or with a debt collector managing the account for Vanquis) then your refund will be reduced by the amount that was written off.
- your Vanquis account is being managed by a debt collector This will be refunded in much the same way as (1) except the email or letter you get may come from the debt collector rather than Vanquis.
- your Vanquis account has been sold to a debt purchaser Here the refunds will be calculated in the same way, using the balance that is owing to the debt purchaser. This will apply if the debt purchaser has got a CCJ. The email or letter you get explaining this will come from the debt purchaser not Vanquis.
When will it be paid?
In June Vanquis admitted that it can’t make its original 90 and 180 day targets. It is now hoping to have paid “most” of the refunds “by the end of the summer”. In September it gave up hoping to do that and is now saying February 2019.
The first of the refunds started being paid in mid-June. But some of them look very low! See Vanquis ROP refunds are wrong – it’s time to complain which explains why the refunds being sent aren’t correct and what you should do.
What should you do?
Cancel your ROP today!
If you are still paying ROP – I suggest you cancel it immediately so call them on 0330 099 3000 today! It is extremely expensive – it makes PPI look cheap and useful.
When people get into financial trouble, Vanquis has to consider freezing interest on their accounts even if they don’t have ROP – so you may get what most people think was the main benefit of the ROP for free.
You will get the refund automatically
You don’t need to put in a complaint, everyone who paid ROP will get a refund of any extra interest they were charged because of the ROP. Vanquis will calculate the amount and contact you.If you have moved or changed your name, you can give Vanquis your new details.
Should you complain and ask for a refund of the ROP itself?
If you want a “full refund”, not just the extra interest added, complain to Vanquis and say why you think you were mis-sold the ROP. Good reasons for this include:
- you didn’t know it was optional – you thought it was automatically included with your card so you couldn’t cancel it;
- you felt under pressure to accept it or you would not have been given any credit limit increases;
- you feel the sales call did not properly describe it to you because when you tried to claim (eg if your hours were cut) it was rejected.
NB you should not complain if the only reason is that you don’t think the extra interest was properly explained – you are already getting that extra interest refunded.
You can send this complaint to customer.relations@vanquisbank.co.uk . Put a title such as COMPLAINT re ROP PAYMENTS and make it clear you want a refund of the ROP payments themselves in addition to a refund of the extra interest you have been charged.
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Susie says
So it looks as though I’ve had a refund of around £1700 paid straight onto my card account. Seems less than I thought given the fact I’ve paid paid almost that in ROP charges and they offered that all back. I will get a letter in the post soon so will let you know how they worked it out.
Sara (Debt Camel) says
That doesn’t sound good… let us know when you have the breakdown.
Brian Hunter says
No posts for the past 10 days. Has Debt Camel given up on this Vanquis situation?
Sara (Debt Camel) says
No – just a little buried by Wonga at the moment! At the moment various people are waiting for Vanquis to come back to them about their complaint that their ROP refund was too low – until we know the result of these, there isn’t much more to be said!
Anthony Georghiou says
Dear Sara,
thank you.
Last Thursday I discovered the Thread Regarding ROP, while I knew I had it, I wasn’t sure what it was
and all it’s ins and outs. The entire ROP system is wrong. I used to work for 2 banks in the past and If
people(bank customers) called me, I froze their account at no cost, provided interest refunds and listened to their financial
difficulties issues with a view to resolving the matter without causing them extra costs.
Vanquis have listened to the original phone call and found something wasn’t explained to me therefore I get
a full refund plus interest plus associated costs.
I’ve paid just over £2,500 in ROP over almost 6 years.
This will wipe out the debt completely £4,000, plus leave me £1000.
The account is going to be shut down.
It was explained to me that it would cost me” £1.29 a month”. They were supposed to say ” £1.29 per £100 of debt”. As
at the beginning it was £1.29 a month. At the end 6 years later it was £62 a month. I wasn’t really looking at my bank statements
from Vanquis to be truthful. On these Grounds they sold it to me, it was mis sold.
Please Check your statements, I want everyone to get what is due. 39.99% should include all of what is in the ROP Policy, don’t you think?
Sarah thank you.
Anthony G
Cat says
Hi. So you got through the 6 year 3 year ruling?
Anthony G says
This Debt is under 6 six only, only just though.
Had it been 3 months later might have been another story.
Don’t give up! They took something that didn’t belong to them and
have taken from the Poorest in our society. I hope ROP is
abolished!
If on the phone call 5 Years, 9 months ago it was mis sold to me, then
the script they used (probably was the same from all or most call operators
who contacted you…..just my opinion).
Ask for All ROP charges back as they mis sold it over the phone.
It’s for them to prove you wrong.
Brian Hunter says
Thanks Sara for your explanation about lack of posts. Following yet another complaint on the phone to Vanquis I have received a letter which more or less says, go away we will sort it out in our own time. Not so sure that they are taking this situation as seriously as all the customers they owe money to.
Sara (Debt Camel) says
Have you received a refund?
Brian Hunter says
No I haven’t had any refund nor the offer of a refund although they do admit that I will get money back……….Eventually
Susie says
Be careful will offers. They give you 2 weeks to accept but don’t send you a breakdown. Then pay a payment into your account which is less than you should get. The ombudsman more or less tells you to be thankful for wha you have received. Vanquis tell you the breakdown is “in the post” but I’ve beem waiting a month now and as far as the ombudsman is concerned you have “agreed to the offer” even though you don’t know what it is.
Sara (Debt Camel) says
Start another formal complaint to Vanquis and say it will be sent to the ombudsman if they don’t give you a breakdown of how the amount was calculated.
Kelly McCandless says
I questioned the ombudsman as I didn’t want to accept until I saw figures and this was reply I received today
Further to my colleague’s email below, I should take this opportunity to clarify that your repayment option plan (“ROP”) refund amount changes on a daily basis. Therefore, Vanquis can only calculate the refund on the day that they make the refund payment and they send out a breakdown of the refund shortly afterwards. If your credit card account would’ve gone positive if you hadn’t had a ROP, your refund will include 8% interest on any amount that otherwise would’ve been positive – for the time that it would’ve been positive. 8% is the court appointed rate of interest that is used to compensate people for being unable to use their own money when they otherwise would’ve been able to.
Vanquis has until 12 September to complete the refunds like yours, so you should receive your breakdown notification by the end of next week. Please let me know if you don’t then receive it.
As clarified, I’m going to put you on the list of people who has accepted the offer on the understanding that you might raise an additional concern if the amount doesn’t seem right (once you know what the amount is).
Susie says
Pretty much what I was told verbally. I’ve asked twice for a breakdown and they’ve said they’ve emailed it and sent it. Nothing so far. My refund didn’t even cover full ROP refund let alone interest and charges. I’ve kind of given up. I owe £1000 on my card. I’m just going to pay it up, close it and forget it :/
laura says
I have received an email from vanquis this morning, no not an apology for ripping me off for the last 10years not even to tell me if or when I will be receiving my rop interest payments, NO the email I was sent : you can now transfer cash from your credit card straight into your bank account all we need is your account no. And they are only going to charge me 3.99% for doing so , is it just me that thinks this company is having a laugh they really are having a laugh , when I last phoned them re information rop interest payments they said they were struggling as there were so many customers to attend to ?. Well obviously not if someone has a enough time to send stupid emails out to already p..s.d off customers, they really are the worst of the worst I have ever debt with.
laura says
This lot should be in front of a judge not the ombudsman.
Cat says
The financial ombudsman refused my complaint due to the 6 year 3 year ruling. Out of curiosity please can someone advise why they don’t do this all the time? There are a number of ppl who seem to get full refunds even when accounts are over 6 years old. The way the ombudsman explained it to me was like it’s black and white, over 6 years so not much we can do.
Catherine
Eve says
The 6 and 3 year ruling confuses me also Cat as some people were refunded out with that ruling without even being questioned about it and some have been refunded after questioning it then others like ourselves were told that was that. The 3 year ruling seems to start the same time as the 6 year ruling according to Vanquis so why even have it? There has been no consistency with any of the Vanquis cases from what I have read on here. My case has now been at the FOS for 8 months. Four different things that Vanquis told the FOS regarding my case were untrue and I had the verbal and written documentation to prove they had lied on 3 of the things but it’s still not been decided on yet. I honestly don’t hold out much hope for my case despite being able to prove every fact that I put in my initial complaint (before I even had some of the proof!).
Hayley says
Did anyone notice a reduction in there monthly payments after removing the rop, my repayments were £130 per month with it and remained at £130 without which doesn’t add up
Sara (Debt Camel) says
The calculation of the minimum amount never takes account of the ROP. Vanquis changed the minimum calculations in July so that they increased. Now the ROP isn’t there, you should find that you balance starts dropping much faster if you aren’t using the card.
Hayley says
I cancelled the rop in March of last year and never noticed a difference in my minimum payment
Peter says
The Minimum payment has nothing to do with ROP , its based on the total balance of the card
However you should have found that the balance of the card came down faster, which in turn brought your minimum payment down unless you of course just spent an increased amount of the card.
Sara (Debt Camel) says
I am closing comments on this page so that everyone leaves comments on the same page which has the template letters to complain if your refund looks too small: https://debtcamel.co.uk/vanquis-rop-3-refunds-wrong-complain/