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How to complete the online bankruptcy application

In 2016, an online Bankruptcy Application was introduced in England and Wales. When you submit the online Application it is checked by the Insolvency Service Adjudicator who makes the Bankruptcy Order.

The online application is a huge improvement on the old court forms! As a result, more people are now choosing bankruptcy, see Court-free clickable bankruptcy ‘removes stigma’.

The online application is pretty long and you may need to find some information for parts of it.

You don’t have to complete it all at once, you can save and come back. But there are eight parts and you can’t move from one part to the next without entering something in the current part. As a result, you can’t easily look at the whole thing before you start – or when you are just thinking of going bankrupt and want to know what you might be asked.

This article looks at the online application to give you a feel what is involved – and there is a link to a page which looks at each section of the application.

Starting a bankruptcy application

To start a bankruptcy application, you need to supply your name, email address and answers to three security questions you select:

  • if this is going to be your “real” bankruptcy application, you should choose an email address which you check regularly, as this is the address the Insolvency Service Adjudicator may need to contact you on.
  • if you just want to have a look around, you can use a fake name – I have used John Deer to get the screenshot on this page.

You are then emailed a 12 character application number that looks something like KZR3-HRLK-PUMG. You then use this to login to your bankruptcy application.

The Application Overview page

The Application Overview page shows you the status of each of the eight different sections and also how much of the bankruptcy fees you have paid so far. You can always go back and change or add to the answers to the sections you have already done.

Here is a screenshot showing what it looks like when the first two sections have been completed and no money has been paid towards the bankruptcy fees:

The 8 sections

See The 8 sections of the bankruptcy application for a detailed look at what you need to put in each section.

When you have completed all the sections…

ready to submit bankruptcy application

When you have gone through all the section you will see the above box.

You may not actually have completed everything! You may still have bits to add to some sections, so it’s a good idea to keep a list of things you want to go back and add to, especially if it is taking a while to get all the information.

And if it has taken a few months to save up the bankruptcy fees, don’t forget to go back and check that none of the information you have put in has changed. Have you moved? Sold a car? Got a new bank account? etc

Once you have completed everything and paid the fees, when you click on the Submit your application you will be asked to verify some information including that:

  • you are the are the person named in the application
  • the information provided is accurate to the best of your knowledge
  • you consent to a credit search being run using the details provided in the application.

What is this information needed for?

There are four main reasons for asking all these questions:

  1. verifying who you are. Not many people will submit a bankruptcy application and pay the fees for someone else maliciously, but the Adjudicator is going to want to spot this if it happens!
  2. getting the Adjudicator the information needed to decide if your bankruptcy order should be made or (very unlikely) your application should be rejected. If you have lived abroad until recently and most of your creditors are abroad, the Adjudicator will consider whether England and Wales is the right place for you to go bankrupt. The Adjudicator will look at a summary of your assets, debts, income and expenses to see if you are “insolvent”. If you are worried about whether you are, the best thing you can do is take some good debt advice before submitting your form.
  3. getting a full picture of your personal and business affairs. After your bankruptcy order is made, the details are passed to an Official Receiver’s office who will interview you about these. A few people try to conceal assets, debts, businesses they have been involved with, the fact they transferred their house into their wife’s name two years ago etc. The only way for the OR to spot the people who are deliberately doing this is to ask everyone a lot of questions.
  4. getting a fair picture of your expenses The details of who lives with you and how old they are will help the Official Receiver later in trying to decide if an Income Payments Agreement is required.

Help – I don’t have some / a lot of this

Many people won’t!

Apply a bit of perspective for old stuff. If you opened your main bank account in the late 90s and don’t have any documentation saying when, just put down Jan 1997 as the date it was opened the account, the OR isn’t going to care. Of course, your bank could probably tell you the information if you phoned them up – it would be worth doing this if the event was much recent.

The OR will also be used to dealing with people who haven’t kept details of everything for the past 5 years. You may have moved house a lot, separated from a partner, have been out of the country, had mental health problems or just not be very good at filing paperwork… Self-employed people who are going bankrupt because their business has failed often don’t have perfect business records.

Just do your best to fill in the application and make some notes about any areas where you really weren’t sure what to put down and mention them to the Official Receiver at your interview.

Problems using the application

If you find you can’t start the next section on the main Overview page, it’s probably because there is a question in the previous section you haven’t yet answered.

If you have problems, you could call the Insolvency Service on 0330 331 0020 or email them at onlinedebtsolutions@insolvency.gsi.gov.uk . They can only answer factual questions, they can’t advise you on what to put on your application.

When will your bankruptcy start?

When you have paid the fees and submitted your application it goes to the Adjudicator’s Office. They approve 95% of applications within 2 working days and many are approved the next working day.

You should check your emails regularly – it is possible the Adjudicator may want to ask something, although this is rare. When the adjudicator has made the decision, you will be informed by email.

You can check if your application has been accepted by logging into the application – if the application has been approved, there will be a copy of your Bankruptcy Order and its date – this is the date you bankruptcy starts.

More information about going bankrupt

  • How to pay your bankruptcy fees
  • Where to get help with the high bankruptcy fees.
  • A timeline for bankruptcy – what happens when
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April 6, 2016 Author: Sara Williams Tagged With: Bankruptcy

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  1. Rob says

    April 6, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    have now started the process of going bankrupt online today and let me tell you it’s so easy to do just take your time if it’s too much just log out and then come back to the page you were at. I myself is going to pay the fee in instalments as l don’t work due to ill health

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      April 6, 2016 at 7:25 pm

      Hi Rob, it’s good you are finding this easy so far – I hope the rest of the process goes smoothly for you.

      Reply
  2. r popa says

    April 18, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    What is the actual bankruptcy fee please?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      April 18, 2016 at 5:14 pm

      £655

      Reply
  3. Stung says

    May 28, 2016 at 4:00 am

    Hi – I am British and been out of the country for 2 and a half years. I live in the UAE. Can I apply online or do I need a solicitor?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      May 28, 2016 at 8:09 am

      As you are not in the EU, you should be able to use the online application within 3 years of leaving England, see https://debtcamel.co.uk/bankrupt-england-from-abroad/ for details.

      Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      May 28, 2016 at 3:13 pm

      Sorry but you have asked 4 rather unusual and very varied questions about bankruptcy on 4 different articles. I cannot give debt advice to an individual and it sounds as though your situation is too complex for general pointers to be useful. I am afraid you need to consult a debt adviser or a solicitor about your range of issues. From what you have said I think you should be taking advice before proceeding with a bankruptcy application.
      Best Wishes

      Reply
  4. Lynn says

    June 24, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    Hi I have paid the fee and submitted my application this afternoon. Could you please tell me how long roughly before the bankruptcy will be granted? Also I have a bailiff coming next week, what happens then? As I’m sure I read somewhere that I shouldn’t pay one creditor over another, or does that only apply after the bankruptcy has been approved.
    Many thanks

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 24, 2016 at 8:21 pm

      Most cases are pretty quick unless there are any questions about whether this is the right country for you to go bankrupt in.

      re the bailiff, just keep things simple and don’t open the door.

      Reply
      • Lynn says

        June 27, 2016 at 10:51 pm

        Hi,

        I was sent bankruptcy order by link to insolvency website today. Had bailiff text to say they were giving 24 hrs notice of intent to seize goods. This is for a council tax liability order. Told them I was bankrupt, the woman on the phone insisted that I wasn’t. As I only applied Friday, and it was accepted today, she claims nobody gets made bankrupt that quick. Emailed copy of the bankruptcy order she insists that it hasn’t come into force yet as it has a case number and not the traditional BR ref. According to her this is just stating I have applied for bankruptcy, but it states BR order. She checked online but nothing shows up yet for my name, She then went on to say that they will pursue for custodial as I have no money!! They were put in the bankruptcy, but she insists they will still pursue me. Please help, is she right? Phoned insolvency service, they say it takes a day or two to update the online insolvency register, but I am BR as I have been send the BRO. Very confused and worried.
        Regards
        Lynn

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          June 28, 2016 at 7:40 am

          You are definitely bankrupt.

          Unless you have already signed a Controlled Goods Order (see https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/debt-and-money/action-your-creditor-can-take/bailiffs/bailiff-has-issued-you-with-a-notice/bailiffs-notices/controlled-goods-agreements-bailiffs/ for what one of these looks like if you are unsure) you can ignore threats from the bailiffs and should not let them into your house. They won’t be able to send you to prison instead!

          If you have signed a Controlled Goods Order things get more more complicated and I suggest you call National Debtline 0808 808 4000 this morning to discuss this.

          Reply
        • E Camps says

          October 12, 2016 at 11:06 am

          Hi I have bailiffs calling tomorrow, just looked at another answer what is a controlled goods order and can I refuse to sign it looking to go bankrupt by next week when we have raised the money

          Reply
          • Sara (Debt Camel) says

            October 12, 2016 at 12:49 pm

            Hi, I think you should phone National Debtline 0808 808 4000 and they can talk you through the details of your debts and what to do about this threatened bailiffs visit.

  5. A kharanjani says

    February 27, 2017 at 1:20 am

    Hi. Do i need to pay all £655 before i can go bankrupt or can i pay that monthly and they will still process my application.??

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 27, 2017 at 7:33 am

      I am afraid you need to pay it all before going bankrupt. See https://debtcamel.co.uk/help-with-bankruptcy-fees/ for ideas about how yo get the money!

      Reply
  6. Ella says

    March 14, 2017 at 2:09 pm

    Hello,
    Me and my husband made a scariest decision our lives- to go bankrupt. Will not go into much detail, redundancy etc., But now half way through the application there are thing that are not clear. All benefits we are receiving are in joint names ( JSA, Housing etc), paid into my account. So i am the one paying all household expenses. How do we declare our expenses and income separately on our bankruptsy applications? I have emailed Insolvency and they say split it between yourselves the way you think best reflects your current financial situation. Not very clear to me. Would greatly appreciate any help / advise. Thank you

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      March 14, 2017 at 3:38 pm

      I suggest you divide all the income and expenses into two. Nothing you have said suggests you need anything more complicated than that.

      Have you talked to a debt adviser about your decision? It may be absolutely the right thing for both of you, but I always suggest it’s worth an hour of your time to get this confirmed. National Debtline 0808 808 4000 are a good place to call.

      Reply
  7. Jamie says

    April 6, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    Following a marriage breakup in November I had to stop making payments on 2 loans. I wrote to them asking them to take a £1 token payment while I hoped to work things out with my wife. Long story short things didn’t work out and am now going through divorce, have now moved into a rented flat and with my current income vs outgoings i’m left with no option other than bankruptcy. I’ve been paying 1 loan company the £1, the second didn’t accept (well requested further info which i sent then heard nothing back) so have paid nothing. I have however been paying the minimum payment on my only credit card since November, will this be seen a a ‘Preferential’ payment and should I include it as such on the bankruptcy form?

    Thank you

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      April 7, 2017 at 8:36 am

      In section 8 of your bankruptcy application you are asked if you have made extra payments to some creditors but not others. You can describe there what has happened.

      BUT this is (a) very small scale (it’s not as though you have repaid a lot of money to a credit card) and (b) very short term, just a few months. I would be extremely surprised if the Official Receiver is at all interested in this.

      Reply
  8. Aaron says

    April 7, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    Hi

    I’m just filling in the online form to go bankrupt, if I owe money to my bank do I give their details as a creditor or the debt collection agency they appointed

    Thank you

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      April 7, 2017 at 5:33 pm

      You list the bank as the creditor, not the debt collector.

      Reply
  9. Shango says

    May 19, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    I would like to ask a question pertaining to Section 8 (Debt History) of the Bankruptcy Application Form.
    I am planning to go Bankrupt later this year.
    For 10 years I have been in a DMP with one of the “Big Three” free facilitators of this service. I have had a Vanquis Card and another loan with outstanding debts totaling 6k which they are unaware of.

    The Vanquis Card has been open for 5years and the loan little over a year. Both are up to date with regard to payments but will be included in the Bankruptcy later this year. The minimum payments to the two total £300 per month whereas my DMP Payment is less than £100 per month on over 100K owed with numerous creditors.

    I am worried that the OR may consider this falls into the category of “extra payments to some creditors” and I could be in for a BRO.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      May 19, 2017 at 9:42 pm

      I suggest you talk to your DMP provider and ask them to include the Vanquis card and the other loan and add the £300 a month to your DMP payment. At the moment that is all you can do.

      A BRO sounds unpleasant but will probably make very little difference to your life. And the OR may not care much anyway – the “extra payments” that they care most about are those where you are repaying a debt to a family member and not paying other creditors anything.

      Reply
      • Shango says

        May 20, 2017 at 5:23 am

        I was planning to stop paying the two of them a couple of Months before going Bankrupt using the money saved to finance most of the £680 Fee.

        If you have been living in England/Wales for at least 6 Months is it true I can go Bankrupt there rather than in Scotland where I resided for the previous 6 Years.

        The reason for my preference is the different way IPA’S are calculated. In England/Wales no IPA prior to discharge and that’s it whereas in Scotland it is still “live” for another three years after discharge.

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          May 20, 2017 at 8:41 am

          Well it’s your choice, but I would suggest that as you have decided to go bankrupt, you should be treating all your creditors equally from this point. If you do this now, the OR is less likely to care what you did before you made the bankruptcy decision. So this means adding Vanquis and the loan into your DMP asap and upping your DMP payments. Then when you need to get the money for the bankruptcy fees you stop paying the DMP – this is standard advice and whichever DMP firm you are using should confirm this if you ask them.

          re living in England for 6 months – I’ll check up on this and get back to you next week.

          Reply
          • Sara (Debt Camel) says

            June 12, 2017 at 4:47 pm

            I am sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

            There is no minimum time you have to live in England before applying for bankruptcy. However, the Adjudicator, who approves applications for bankruptcy, needs to be satisfied that you “ordinarily reside” in England. If you have only just moved from Scotland, you may be asked to provide evidence showing that you really have permanently moved. This could be utility bills, a tenancy agreement, council tax bills, evidence that you are employed etc.

  10. Douglas says

    June 5, 2017 at 10:42 am

    Hi, Does the fee need to be paid in full before the application will be processed? There is the option for monthly payments so just wondering how this works. KIndly they don’t provide this information on their website.

    Thanks

    Douglas

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      June 12, 2017 at 4:56 pm

      Hi Douglas, the fee does have to be paid in full before you can press the Submit button to apply . The monthly payments options is there because many people find it helps them to put the money away towards the fees.

      Reply
  11. Erika brady says

    September 13, 2017 at 7:39 am

    Hi
    Unfortunately I’ve just failed an Iva so now going bankrupt. How do I show my termination certificate to the io as there is no option to upload it with the online application?
    Thanks

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      September 13, 2017 at 8:02 am

      Is your IVA still showing as active on the Insolvency Service register?

      Reply
      • Erika brady says

        September 13, 2017 at 8:06 am

        Yes as they are terminating it at the moment

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          September 13, 2017 at 9:29 am

          I think the IS will check the register when approving your bankruptcy application, they won’t need to see the termination certificate.

          Reply
  12. Rebecca feeney says

    September 25, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    Who takes a proof of income/expenditure? Surely you have to hand that to someone to go through before you can be confirmed bankrupt 2 days after you fill in the online form.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      September 25, 2017 at 9:45 pm

      You have to complete I&E details as part of the online application. You don’t have to prove this before you go bankrupt – this is just the same as with the old paper-based application at court, you didn’t have to provide any proof of that. After you have gone bankrupt, you will have an interview with your someone at your Offical Receiver’s office, usually over the phone.

      Reply
  13. Rebecca feeney says

    September 26, 2017 at 7:29 am

    So you don’t have to give bank statements or anything in at all? I sound like I’m trying to hide something I’m not, I just had read that they will want a few months of bank statements and proof every bill that comes out and wage slips so I’ve been trying to get all of that together. Do i not need to send this off or show anyone at any point?
    I had a meeting last night with someone from Christians against poverty and they were lovely, but they wanted to set something up to pay my creditors and also put aside savings for myself. I don’t really want to be handing someone money but they said they would help me complete the online appline application etc. Will I need a lot of help or is it pretty self explanatory if you have all the correct documentation?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      September 26, 2017 at 7:56 am

      You will usually be asked for bank statements etc during the interview after you have gone bankrupt, not before. If you read through the article above – and the link in it to the details of the application – you should get a reasonable feel for what is involved. And if you want to look in detail, just start an application so you can access the real thing. You can do this in a false name and a junk email address if you want, or use your real name and email if you expect to take this forward at some point an actually apply.

      Most people’s applications are long but straightforward. If you just work through it methodically you should be fine.

      CAP are very good and help a lot of people through this process. You need to save up the bankruptcy fees, complete the application, plan when to go bankrupt, plan to open a new bank account etc. If it is going to take you a long while to save up the fees, there is the question of how much to pay your creditors whilst you are doing this – nothing may be the right answer, but not if you have priority debts – CAP can talk about these.

      If you would prefer to do the form yourself and save up the money yourself, I don’t think CAP would mind, but they should be able to answer any questions.

      Reply
      • Rebecca feeney says

        October 3, 2017 at 12:46 pm

        Thanks Sara,

        I have started to fill in the online application and it looks fairly straightforward. How many months of bank statements does the generally get asked for?
        My case is relatively simple with approx 26k of debt just from credit cards/tax credit over payment little bits and bobs and haven’t got myself into any new debt in approximately 2 years.

        Reply
  14. Jane says

    October 13, 2017 at 7:43 pm

    I was wondering if most of the credit card debts have been assigned to Debt Collection Agencies is it the name of the Credit card provider that goes down or the collection agency? Also why is a credit search done? Is this so that all of your debts are counted in the Bankruptcy?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      October 13, 2017 at 8:03 pm

      Hi Jane,

      as I said when you commented before, you are based in Scotland and I am afraid that I know nothing about Scottish Insolvency. I am not prepared to guess. Please phone National Debtline who have Scottish experts.

      Reply
  15. Beth says

    November 12, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    Hi Sara,
    Can you tell me what I should put for the Creditors address, for credit cards that I have that are online only accounts?
    Also, I haven’t worked for 3 years, but not been on benefits either. My husband has helped me out by paying my share of the bills, which isn’t supportable anymore. Do I put 50% of all the bills down as my expenditures, even though I haven’t been paying them myself?
    Thanks in advance
    Beth

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      November 12, 2017 at 10:13 pm

      If you look on the card’s website, there is often address in the footer. eg MBNA’s says “Credit Card(s) issued by MBNA Limited. Registered Office: Stansfield House, Chester Business Park, Chester CH4 9QQ”. That would do for the address.

      Do you have any income?

      Reply
      • Beth says

        November 15, 2017 at 9:22 am

        Thanks, perfect.
        No, I don’t have any income except for £137.60 a month in Child Benefit.

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          November 15, 2017 at 9:37 am

          OK, well if you have no income apart from benefits, you will not have to make any monthly payments. I suggest you just put down as expenses your share of the food bills as your CB isn’t going to cover much more than that.

          Going bankrupt gets rid of your debts, but your husband is still going to have to pay almost all the other bills himself.

          Reply
          • Beth says

            November 15, 2017 at 9:40 am

            Thanks Sara.

  16. Beth says

    November 28, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    Hi again,
    I am ready to hit the button on the bankruptcy form now, but I haven’t yet set up a new basic bank account. Would you advise doing that before or after I apply for bankruptcy? If I do it before will I not have to list it on the form and then the account will be temporarily frozen? When I set it up should I tell the bank that I am/ about to go bankrupt?
    Thanks so much for all your help.
    Beth

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      November 28, 2017 at 10:21 pm

      See this article: https://debtcamel.co.uk/bank-accounts-after-bankruptcy/

      Reply
      • Beth says

        November 28, 2017 at 10:26 pm

        Awesome, thank you so much. I completely missed that article. MUCH clearer than the one on the Gov.uk site.

        Reply
  17. Baki says

    March 27, 2018 at 3:11 am

    Hi Sara
    I have a debt of around 23K, I have left my Jon Oct last year, Now I am doing a part time Job, but the earning is not good enough. My Credit Card and Bank keep sending me letter but they have not send any letter from secondary collection company. at the moment I Missed my previous debt management payment. I also explain them , the company advice me to go to Bankruptcy.

    my Question : How likely My application will be accepted? I Have only a car which value is less then £1000. If my application accept what will happen my household Property ( TV, Furniture etc). I am bit confused if they ask me why am i in part time job ?
    I am not capable of paying any credit card or any Overdraft, What should I do?

    waiting for your reply
    Thanks

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      March 27, 2018 at 8:01 am

      Your application will not be refused because the Insolvency Service thinks you should get a full time job – they look at what your current income is, they don’t make moral judgments about what you should be doing.

      I suggest you read https://debtcamel.co.uk/lawnmower-bankruptcy/ and https://debtcamel.co.uk/bankruptcy-qs-or-make/.

      If your DMP firm has advised bankruptcy then that is very likely to be your best option. They will be able to answer any detailed questions you have.

      Reply
  18. Debra says

    May 24, 2018 at 6:10 pm

    I had a bancruptcy petition raised by my husband In Divorce he has a trusted mobile phone on my apple and basically was me It was sent in 23.51 and by 15.00 hours I was a bancrupt. It’s not my form makes no sense to
    Me either so I ve sent the evidence in from Apple and explained everything but I can’t anull as it’s not a court order yet seems like I’m stuck but I’m not a bancrupt

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      May 24, 2018 at 6:22 pm

      Have I understood this correctly – are you saying that someone, who you assume was your ex, has entered an application for bankruptcy pretending to be you?

      Reply
  19. Marmighty says

    September 16, 2018 at 4:07 pm

    Hi,
    We are finding the wording in the online application slightly tricky. I hope this isn’t a dumb question as we already feel like we’re losing the plot, and are terrified. In Section 6, it asks for household expenses. ((I am filing for myself as my debt is 95% from before I lived with my partner)) All bills and rent are in her name seeing as she lived here already. My trouble is where it’s asking for household expenses in every section, does this include her contributions to, say for example, food, gifts, fuel, eating out etc?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      September 16, 2018 at 4:11 pm

      do you two earn roughly the same amount?

      Reply
      • Marmighty says

        September 16, 2018 at 4:48 pm

        My income is higher than the monies she receives. Which leads me to another important point. She has 2 disabled children from a previous relationship & is listed as a Carer due to their ages and needs. So her income and all monies are the following: Carers, CHB, Child Tax Credits (dramatically reduced now due to overpayment 😖), Child Maint. & DLA (for both children).
        Are all of those, combined, to be considered as her income on my application seeing as some are directly for her children’s needs?

        Reply
        • Sara (Debt Camel) says

          September 16, 2018 at 5:24 pm

          So no Housing benefit – is that because of your income?
          Disability payments complicate things here – it’s not bad for you at all, it just makes things more complicated. The OR will basically allow an identical expenses line against all the disability income. As you have more income than your partner, you would be expected to pay more of the rent and other household bills. If you haven’t been doing this to date, it’s probably because you have been trying manage your own debts!

          I think you need to look go through your I&E in detail – this could be with a debt adviser eg by talking to National Debtline on the phone 0808 808 4000 or by posting on https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=136 where there are a couple of good debt advisers who often comment as well as other forum regulars. It might help if you started by posting a joint I&E and then work from that to decide what should go on the form.

          Take it slowly, there is no rush. Things aren’t set in stone, if you realise something is wrong or changes later you can get it changed, but it’s better for your nerves to try to get it looking good at the start.

          Reply
          • Marmighty says

            September 17, 2018 at 10:43 am

            My income is above the housing benefit £ bracket at the moment. I’m happy to hear it wasn’t just us, feeling like the circumstances made this application less straightforward. We are phoning the national helpline today to hopefully get clarity before applying.
            I appreciate your advice and info, thank you very much! It’s helped us along a bit further for sure. 🌟

  20. Marmighty says

    September 16, 2018 at 4:21 pm

    Sorry, I forgot to add (re: section 6, household expenses)… the confusion comes with the header saying “enter household expenses …” and just below is states “if you don’t contribute, leave blank”. My partner has a car payment which of course comes out of her money but is still, from where I stand, a household expense. Are we including her bills as well (ie car payment, mobile, her credit card) so that the OR gets a complete picture of the financials? Thanks for all advice, in advance!

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    • Nikki says

      September 19, 2018 at 3:12 pm

      I would like clarification on this too! My husband has applied and it wants to include all my income so surely must include all my outgoings too….they cannot assume all my wages are shared with him if all the bills aren’t also shared?

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      • Sara (Debt Camel) says

        September 19, 2018 at 4:19 pm

        This isn’t normally complicated. The OR wants to know your income as it will determine how joint bills will be split. Normally most household bills would be joint… rent, utilities, insurance, food, children’s costs etc but you may have expenses that wouldn’t be joint – your own debts, your season ticket to work, your clothes etc.

        In Marmighty s case this was complicated by the fact some children were from a previous relationship and there were a lot of disability benefits where the lenders come needs to be handled in the same way (joint or just for one) as the relevant expenses were.

        If you are worried, then I suggest posting on the MSE forum I gave a link to.

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        • Marmighty says

          September 19, 2018 at 5:02 pm

          Hi, I’ve since had a web chat with someone at National Debtline. It was suggested to use joint expenses on the submitted application (her personal bills as well, seeing as her monthly ‘income’ was to be included). We’ve also written out on paper her monthly income, expenditures, bills, to reflect a breakdown for my Interview, should the OR benefit from seeing it. It shows a final amount left over as her contribution to household bills…& it is very minimal so It can’t hurt to have this on hand.
          As far as the DLA, it’s not going to be included as her income but instead as an added line, separately marked as income/outgoings so it’s us putting it out there plus it’s automatically discounted as income.
          After your advice and pointing us in the right direction, plus National Debtline, i feel reluctantly confident (says nervously, lol) to carry on with this application. Thank you again!

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          • Sara (Debt Camel) says

            September 19, 2018 at 5:10 pm

            That sounds good – almost everyone is nervous about submitting their application, it’s natural, I’m sure you won’t need it but Good Luck.

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