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Wonga – what happened during the administration

The administration of WDFC, the legal company who operated the Wonga brand, was completed in August 2020.

The company was finally dissolved in December 2020.

See Companies House records for details.

Background to the administration – rising complaint numbers

A payday loan is “unaffordable” if repaying left you short so you had to get into more debt, by borrowing again or getting behind on bills or other debts. So you may have repaid all your loans but still have a good claim for a refund of the interest you paid.

When Wonga went under there were over 200,000 people with current loans from Wonga – many of them had a good case for the interest to be removed from their balance so they only repay what they borrowed.

The Administrators’ proposals set out the reasons why Wonga went into administration. These were the increasing number of affordability complaints, especially from Claims Companies, and the decision by the Financial Ombudsman that FOS could look at loans over 6 years old, going back to 2007.

There were 24,000 affordability complaints awaiting a decision by Wonga and 9,500 complaints against Wonga with the Financial Ombudsman when Wonga ceased trading on 30 August 2018.

Details on the Administration

The Administrators have made various progress reports (available from Companies House)  and statements during 2018-20:

  • in October 2018, the Administrators published their Proposals, detailing how they planned to handle the administration. Creditors voted to approve these Proposals.
  • progress report to end February 2019;
  • Witness Statement in April 2019;
  • progress report to end August 2019.

An online claim page was set up in April 2019 for Wonga customers to submit claims for refunds. The deadline for sending in a claim was 30 September 2019.

The Administrators assessed all claims using an automated tool. This took account of:

  • all loans, including those over 6 years old
  • how large a loan was compared to a customer’s income;
  • how often someone borrowed without significant gaps;
  • whether there were indications of hardship such as missed payments;
  • if there is a balance outstanding for the right of set-off.

Where it decided one or more loans were unaffordable, it calculated how much interest should be refunded and added statutory interest at 8%.

In August 2019 the Administrators starting sending emails to people saying whether their claims have been successful or rejected.

In September, the Administrators sent an update on progress up to end August 2019. Key points include:

  • at end August, 389,621 claims for unaffordable payday lending have been accepted by the administrators;
  • the total value of these claims is c £460million – an average of c £1,200 a claim.
  • £23m of outstanding loans have been collected. The Administrators say that outstanding loans are being taken into account and given the right of set-off where the customer has a claim for unaffordable loans.
  • The remaining loan book will not be sold to a debt collector.

At this point the Administrators were saying that payments would be made by 30 January 2020.

In October, many people with a balance still owed to Wonga received an offer to settle the debt for 25% of its value. This included some people who had made a Claim and had that upheld – the administrators withdrew these offers as they didn’t take account of the refunds owed.

29 January 2020 – administrators announce 4.3p in the pound

On 29 January 2020, the Wonga administrators announced that they will be paying 4.3p in the pound to unsecured creditors. This includes all the 400,000 people who are owed a refund for unaffordable lending.

The administrators have now given the final numbers:

  • they assessed 401,202 claims as being valid;
  • of these 358,129 are being paid 4.3% of their assessed compensation value;
  • the remaining 43,073 also owed a balance on a loan to wonga, so their compensation has been used to clear or reduce that balance.

What happens next:

  • the money should be paid within the next 4 weeks. This has come as a surprise as people had been told it would be paid by the end of January;
  • loans that are being refunded should be removed from your credit record in the next 6 weeks.

My comment – ripped off by Wonga and now let down by the regulators

The administrators told people they would get “significantly less” than that amount as there would not be enough money to pay the claims in full.

But many people will have been hoping for more than 4.3% and are very upset.

It is not the administrators’ fault there is so little money to be divided between so many people. It is the fault of the regulators – first the OFT and then the FCA – that they allowed Wonga to break the rules saying that affordability should be checked

And now the regulators have failed to ensure that these Wonga victims get the compensation they should have. When a PPI firm went under, the Financial Services Compensation Scheme stepped in and people with PPI claims got paid in full. But the FCA has not extended the FSCS to cover payday lenders.

This isn’t just a problem for the hundreds of thousands of Wonga victims. Borrowers from many payday lenders have been unable to get proper compensation after the lender has had to close. This will apply to QuickQuid, the money shop, Payday UK and Payday Express borrowers as well.

The FCA needs to rethink this and provide a safety net for people who were mis-sold unaffordable loans.

Readers comments – Shock and disappointment

This a brief overview of the hundreds of comments below this article.

Some people are happy to be getting anything:

  • “I am only getting just shy of £25 but for the sake of completing a 30 second form it’s not too bad.”
  • “I will be getting £79.93 of the £1854.17 I was owed. Better than nothing!”
  • “£35 out of a possible £800. I wasn’t expecting much anyway. I’m more interested in having the 25 wonga loans removed from my credit file.”

The administrators had said people would get “significantly less” than the claim, but many people were hoping for at least 10%:

  • “I got mine £88.67 – claim was £2057.05 – I was expecting at least a couple hundred.”
  • “Claim was 3034, getting 130. By considerably less I didn’t think it would be over 95% of it. That is ridiculous.”
  • “To receive £44.10 from a claim of £1023.00 is insulting to be honest.”
  • “Owed £1499, getting £63…what an absolute joke!”
  • “4.3% is an absolute disgrace. Although people are trying to be positive they shouldn’t have to. The people who made all the profit here would spend the biggest payout anyone has received on an evening out and not think twice about it.”
  • “Gutted…. was hoping for at least the 10% speculated.”

This reader blamed not just Wonga but the regulators:

  • “Over £11k accepted reduced down to £480 – my job, my marriage and 4 years of desperation followed by years of rebuilding my life – that’s what the regulators consider that to be worth! Shame on everyone involved in Wonga and the lack of regulation of lenders like them !”

Some are just delighted that Wonga has gone under:

  • “Heads up everyone…We have won in the end! They can no longer be a hindrance to any of us any more!”
  • “Mines going to charity. Best thing to have happened is for them to have gone bust”
  • ”Thank you Wonga you paid me to continue gambling, I lost everything. Good riddance.”

Many people are also disappointed and shocked that they aren’t being paid by the end of January. Some people getting these refunds are still in difficult financial circumstances and had planned to use the money to pay a bill or some debts.

February 2020 – some clarifications from the administrators

The remaining loans

The administrators have confirmed that no further payments are being accepted and the debts will not be sold to a debt collector. So you don’t have to worry about being taken to court or bailiffs.

But the debts are not technically being written off. They will remain on your credit record for 6 years from the default date on your credit record. If you don’t know what this date is, I suggest you check it now.

In practice, now the company in liquidation, if you contact a credit reference agency and say your Wonga debt is incorrect, you can ask the credit reference agency to “suppress” the record as Wonga can no longer say what the right entry should be. See How to correct credit records if the lender has gone under for details.

No deductions are being made for tax

The Administrators have said:

“the Joint Administrators have agreed with HMRC that the payment may be treated for tax purposes as set wholly against the interest and fees element first, and statutory interest second. As a result, where the distribution paid by the administrators to each customer does not exceed the interest and fees claimed by them, no withholding tax will be required to be deducted at source from payments made by the administrators in such cases.”

The simple version of this is:

  1. the administrators are not taking off any tax.
  2. there will, therefore, be no tax to have to reclaim.
  3. the vast majority of people will not have to pay any tax on any part of of the refund even if you are a higher rate taxpayer. The amounts don’t have to be declared if you complete an annual tax return eg if you are self-employed.

A small number of extra payments

A small number of customers were owed money by Wonga for a different reason, for example they may have overpaid on a loan.  These extra amounts are also being paid out and you will get 4.3% of them too.

If you were not using a claims company, you should have received a single email at the end of January which mentions both amounts.

If you were using a claims company you should have received two emails, each about one of the amounts. If you have only received one email and it mentions a claim which is smaller than the amount you expected, you can contact the administrators, it may be this is the “extra” payment.

Bank account issues

I asked the Administrators why some people are still getting emails asking them to update their bank details. They say:

These emails will be in response to customers’ requests received by the Customer Care team prior to 29 January 2020 providing a secure method by which customers can update their bank account details. Customers should respond to these emails.

I asked the Administrators what will happen if they make a payment and it bounces back to them because the account is no longer open. They say:

Where updated information is available from customers we will attempt to reprocess bounced dividend payments via electronic transfer. Alternatively, we will issue a cheque to the address held on file.

A blogger contacted the Administrators on the 14th February to ask why she hadn’t been paid and was told:

 “I can confirm that the joint administrators have commenced distribution of dividend payments to unsecured creditors, including those with redress claims. Given the volume of transactions that need to now take place, the administrators cannot guarantee an exact date when individuals will receive payment but are aiming to complete transactions within the next two weeks.”

February and March – payments started but with problems

I was told by the Administrators on Friday 28th February that 90%+ of payments have been made and they expect to make the rest of payments over the next two weeks by BACS. About 22,000 the following week, about 13,000 the week after. It looks as though the 22,000 group got their money. It’s not clear to me how many of the 13,000 group have.

Many people in the comments below this article were reporting probems. These included people whose bank accounts had never changes. Problems included:

  1. confusion over whether a claims company has been paid or they will be;
  2. Wongasaid payment was sent to a claims firm that hadn’t been used;
  3. Wonga said a cheque was sent to a house you no longer live it;
  4. Wonga said a payment has been made to your bank account but it hasn’t arrived ;
  5. Wonga has said a payment was sent to an old bank account despite new bank account details having been given and co0nfirmed as having been received.

On 2 March the Administrators said the payment process was taking longer than expected and payments would continue to about 40,000 people over the next 2 weeks:

The Joint Administrators have now attempted to make dividend payments to over 410,000 creditors… In addition to the payments that were not made we have had approximately 40,000 payments returned to us due to incorrect customer bank details recorded on file with Wonga. We will now begin contacting these customers whose payments were returned, by email, to obtain correct and up-to-date bank account details.

The dividend payment process is taking longer than anticipated and payments will continue to be paid during the next two weeks.

On 19 March the Admistrator’s announced:

The Joint Administrators have now attempted to make dividend payments to over 443,000 creditors representing 98% of the creditor population. This includes payments to creditors whose payments were briefly held back from the initial payment phase whilst additional validation checks were completed to new bank account and/or address details that were provided. The Joint Administrators now continue to focus on the remaining small population of unpaid dividends in order to complete the payment process.

From here on progress was very slow, impeded by lockdown.

End August 2020 – administration ends – do you still have a problem?

Have you not been paid?

The Administrators final report blames the payment problems of Wonga’s poor systems and on creditors who did not update their bank details when requested to. But as many comments below detail, people who had never changed their bank account or who had updated their bank details several times and had each confirmed also experienced prolonged delays.

At 28 Auguest when the administration ended, there were still c 49,000 payments with a total value of £632,000 that had not been made – an average about of £13 per payment. About 70% of these were for amounts owed before the administration, so not affordability complaints.

The Administrators have passed the £632,000 to the Insolvency Service. If any creditors want to claim an unpaid amount, they should email CustomerServicesEAS@Insolvency.gov.uk.

A problem with your credit record

If there is a problem with your credit record then you now need to contact the Credit Reference Agency where the problem is showing – Experian, Equifax or TransUnion. Say you can no longer get an answer from the administrators as the firm has been dissolved so you would like the CRA to “suppress” the credit records (list them) as they are inaccurate.

This problem could have been an error by the administrators, who failed to delete the record. It could be an error by Wonga before the administration: the loan date or balance or default date is wrong – you want the default date to be as early as possible so it drops off sooner – or Wonga may have failed to add a default date.

If the CRA refuses, send the CRA a formal complaint and this can be sent to the Financial Ombudsman. In practice people are getting these sorted with the CRAs without having to go to the ombudsman.


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April 21, 2020 Author: Sara Williams Tagged With: Administrations & Schemes

Comments

  1. Sara (Debt Camel) says

    February 26, 2020 at 8:47 am

    So no reports of payments so far to day – very disappointing.

    I have published a representative selection of the people saying they haven’t been paid. I won’t be publishing any more for a while unless there is something new in your comment, beyond what has already been said.

    To be clear:
    – the administrators are not doing this to earn more interest
    – they have not run out of money!
    – the 4 weeks isn’t yet up
    – if there was anything you could do to speed up getting your money, I would have suggested it. There isn’t.

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  2. Sam says

    February 26, 2020 at 8:48 am

    I didn’t agree with everyone blaming the administrators etc. initially/the interest talk and getting wound up so much before the 4 weeks, but today, I am surprised and disappointed to have still not received anything.

    To send that e-mail to the most financially vulnerable with a 4-week deadline for the £, and then not meet it, is very poor.

    Also concerning to see that practically no-one does seem to have received money in this (alleged) final week. I see that people who can see pending payments a day early also don’t seem to see that it’ll be hitting tomorrow either. Hmmmm.

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  3. Mac says

    February 26, 2020 at 9:37 am

    Hi

    I have now spoken to the financial ombudsman in relation to this and the shambles that it is. The lack of communication and inconsistent communication its ridiculous and a company such as Grant Thornton should not be allowed to get away with it. Looking at the Forum everyone has now lost faith they are going to be paid. The ombudsman was very helpful and is looking into this case as to how this gets addressed. Not much help to getting money in the bank but its principle that yet another company is taking a lend of an already bad situation.

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    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 26, 2020 at 9:47 am

      I am sure you spoke to someone polite at FOS, but they have absolutely no jurisdiction over what an administrator does.

      Reply
  4. Michelle Jones says

    February 26, 2020 at 10:16 am

    Hi
    Good morning still waiting for refund I used payday refunds?? Had no communication since 2018 and phones etc dont work …
    Has anyone else used these? And how will I get my money.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 26, 2020 at 11:00 am

      other people who used them have been told by Wonga the payment will go to the customer. That claims firm has gone out of business.

      Reply
  5. Claire says

    February 26, 2020 at 10:53 am

    Hi all
    I chased them up and they gave the below reply .. so we will have to wait until end Feb before complaining ..

    “Thank you for contacting us,

    Payments will be made by the end of February. This is due to the volume of payments being made and processes we have to follow. We are unable to give any further information about when the funds will be received.

    Kind regards,”

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  6. MFJN says

    February 26, 2020 at 11:25 am

    I have found to my dismay that calling the registered Wonga customer information line 020 7138 8330 will get you nowhere. Not sure it will get you anywhere any quicker, but you could try [[edited – please send emails directly to the administrators – see addresses in the article above].

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    • Laura says

      February 26, 2020 at 12:06 pm

      The Wonga customer care staff are actually Wonga South Africa employees I know this because I asked them. Said GT had kept them to do that as they knew the systems while the administration task was undertaken. They are just saying what’s getting fed to them from GT if that’s anything at all at this stage! It’s not their fault

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  7. Lynne says

    February 26, 2020 at 12:03 pm

    Seriously I don’t know what to do next. They’re saying they’ve paid me – I know they haven’t. This is not going to be a good outcome. I’m waiting on this money to pay my rent!!

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 26, 2020 at 12:10 pm

      sorry Lynne, but how will you be paying your rent next month when you won’t be getting any extra money? Of course you should get this money, but I do think you need to talk to a debt adviser about your whole situation. SteopChange are good if you would like to talk on the phone or your local Citizens Advice is best if you have any benefits or council tax issues as well.

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    • Natalie says

      February 26, 2020 at 12:54 pm

      I wonder if everybody else is in the same boat as you and that’s why no one has been paid. I have emailed GT to see if i have been paid. No point in phoning Wonga as they’re not the ones doing payments and you don’t get definitive answers out of them. If they had loads of payments still to do then we would have seen people commenting that they’ve got the money or at least a handful a day. So far zilch. I really hope you get sorted out Lynne.

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    • Lynne says

      February 26, 2020 at 1:55 pm

      Nationwide have advised me to contact GT to ask for proof of them sending the funds. Perhaps that’s our next course of action folks.

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    • Lynne says

      February 26, 2020 at 3:57 pm

      WONGA JUST EMAILED AGAIN TO SAY THEY CANT FIND ME ON THEIR SYSTEM AGAIN AND ASKING ME TO CONFIRM NANE, DOB AND CASE NUMBER

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      • Sara (Debt Camel) says

        February 26, 2020 at 4:23 pm

        oh boy…

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    • Lynne says

      February 26, 2020 at 6:09 pm

      UPDATE!!!! THIS IS NOT EVEN A JOKE ANYMORE!!

      Following up on your email, we have investigated your payment further and found that it was attempted but failed.

      The Joint Administrators will be dealing with all failed/bounced payments as a separate payment exercise in order to remedy these. We will provide you with a timeframe as soon as we are able to. We’re sorry that we cannot be more specific at the moment.

      We understand your frustration and apologise for the delay.

      Kind regards,

      Customer Care
      Wonga.com

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      • Lynne says

        February 26, 2020 at 6:26 pm

        I’ve asked them WHEN did they make the payment, how come they’re just telling me about it now, and also as I have sent them my correct bank details SIX TIMES surely they can now put it in the right account!!!!!

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  8. Ryan says

    February 26, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    Where do we actually stand with complaints if we’re not paid? I respect it was a lot of payments but they are the ones who have said 4 weeks. I genuinely wouldn’t of cared if they said 6,7,8,9 or even 10 weeks at least then we wouldn’t of been checking every day and it would of gave them breathing space. I’m with HSBC and I haven’t got any pending transactions for tomorrow so hopefully Friday now. It doesn’t seem like anyone has been paid at all this week. Or at least not reported

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    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 26, 2020 at 1:26 pm

      It will be case by case, ask Wonga why you haven’t been paid, if they say you have, ask which bank they paid and when, then hopefully they will send you a cheque.

      A handful of people have said they have been paid this week, almost none.

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  9. Karen says

    February 26, 2020 at 12:55 pm

    I just spoke to wonga i have nothing pending for tomorrow he told ne all payments be made by friday but i have no faith im waiting for 166.50.

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    • Liz says

      February 26, 2020 at 1:28 pm

      I rang Grant Thornton who said to ring Wonga who said to ring Grant Thornton. Both companies saying the other are making the payments and they don’t have access to the payments.
      No one to go to to help us who haven’t been paid.

      Reply
  10. Garry Gibbons says

    February 26, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    I got paid yesterday afternoon from [a claims firm] who must of been holding it a week. Any way thanks for all the advice.

    Reply
  11. Khali says

    February 26, 2020 at 1:53 pm

    I still haven’t received anything although I did change bank information on 29th of Jan. I’m starting to lose hope of getting the £170 which would be very nice as I have 10k worth of debt that I am repaying after my DMP fell through :(

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  12. Kris says

    February 26, 2020 at 2:33 pm

    I made my claim through a CMC and I’ve just emailed them asking if they have received a payment iro my claim, they replied saying they are starting to receive payment albeit slowly and sporadically with no reference number attached so they are having to work through it to determine how much to pay etc.

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  13. Liz says

    February 26, 2020 at 3:18 pm

    This is the reply I’ve got received from Grant Thornton
    I updated my bank details on 27/1/2020. And received and email and told on the phone my bank details had been processed and I would receive my refund within four weeks.
    Now they are saying this. Based on this I’d be very surprised if anymore repayments are paid for a while.

    Elizabeth

    As advised by my colleague Alex on 25 February 2020, and as disclosed on the email of 29 January 2020, as you provided your updated bank details to the Customer Care team in January, your payment may take longer than the four weeks disclosed to receive while your updates are processed.

    We are currently updating and auditing the information provided by customers in January to process their refunds but we cannot give an exact payment date at this time.

    Kind regards
    Matthew Drinkwater
    Assistant Manager

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    • Ian L says

      February 26, 2020 at 4:53 pm

      That response from Mr Drinkwater actually makes a bit of sense, finally. I uploaded my bank details in January and I got an email on 3/2/20 confirming they had been processed. So it looks like (as per the email of the 29th) my refund will take longer than four weeks to process.

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  14. Amanda says

    February 26, 2020 at 3:20 pm

    Don’t no if this helps but Just got this from GT

    Hi Amanda, I understand your frustration. Unfortunately given the volume of transactions that need to take place, the administrators cannot guarantee an exact date when individuals will receive payment, but they are aiming to complete transactions this week. Please feel free to get back in touch if you haven’t received your payment next week. Thanks^MM

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    • Dawn says

      February 26, 2020 at 3:51 pm

      Just called customer service and got same reply still making payments and could be up to 29th feb!

      Couldn’t tell me if being sent by bacs or faster payment does anyone know if it’s bacs?

      Nothing showing pending on my bank

      Reply
  15. Paul says

    February 26, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    I’ve just had a lovely conversation with David Dunkleys pa.

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    • Kieran says

      February 26, 2020 at 4:32 pm

      Do tell paul

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      • Paul says

        February 26, 2020 at 4:45 pm

        She took my details and a manager from the admin team has just called me back and taken all my details. She is coming back to me with reasons I haven’t been paid and some answers as to when i will.At least I know someone is now looking at this.

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  16. Al1 says

    February 26, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    I’ve emailed Wonga for reassurance.
    They’ve today confirmed the last digits on my account. For the first time might I add!
    And said payment no later than Friday.
    Hope so!!!

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  17. Paul says

    February 26, 2020 at 4:27 pm

    I have just come off the phone with Matthew from GT Leeds here are the facts as of 4.22

    GT can no longer promise a timescale when remaining people will be paid it is now unknown
    GT will not divulge the number of people left to be paid
    I asked why the deadline was going to be missed Matthew said it was for varying factors he could not divulge
    I asked why GT set a timescale that would let people down he said it was unforeseen due to the high number of claims.

    All the above are 100% facts

    I’m embarrassed at how this has been handled it’s a disgrace

    Don’t expect payment by Friday was the conclusion although Matthew admitted GT stated 28 days as close of play today

    Let down again

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    • Dan says

      February 26, 2020 at 4:49 pm

      What a shambles so some people can get it very early. Then some of us have to wait as they are clueless. Surely the email at the end of January should be law. Very disappointed by GT and Wonga.

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    • Lou says

      February 26, 2020 at 8:37 pm

      I really hope this isn’t the case was kind of needing that money this week I still have only recieved 4p when the first payments started to get paid out. When I spoke to them I asked when do I need to worry as I havent recieved my full redress, I was told the last payments will be made up to 28th of the month. I’m utterly shocked it’s all a shambles :(

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  18. Ian says

    February 26, 2020 at 5:28 pm

    Do feel sorry for some on here when they are needing the wonga redress to pay bills etc ive got bills and payments coming out of my ears but always work out my money whats coming in whats guaranteed ie wages etc their really is help out their especially citizens advice who i went to see and they sorted all my creditors out with easier to make payments well worth a visit

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  19. Mac says

    February 26, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    Don’t want to sound a pessimist however goin by all the comments it appears that Grant Thornton have hit some kind of problem that’s not being communicated resulting in many of us getting a variety of reasons we have not received payment whether that be because of bounding payments or bank details or some unknown. I think we all are fully aware that there a large number of payments to be made but when they realised they were unlikely to be able to fulfil the promise to pay by the 28th Feb should they not have put out a communication to everyone explaining rather than nothing leading to numerous people calling and stressing and getting differing stories. Surely someone is accountable we all would have been when we could not pay on time

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    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 26, 2020 at 7:27 pm

      I don’t know how many people haven’t been paid so I don’t know if it’s large. It could be 500, 5000 or 50000.

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  20. Dave L says

    February 26, 2020 at 7:27 pm

    GT are an absolute disgrace, they are an incompetent shambles. I actually think they need to be formally investigated and fined by the regulators over how they have handled this, maybe then they might treat it more seriously.

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  21. simon says

    February 26, 2020 at 7:51 pm

    I think ( like with most things ) its the lack of communication to customers thats the issue . I thought i saw something posted earlier about delays being caused by dealing with changes to bank details causing delays. Hmmm, my details ( confirmed 3 times now ) its not an issue to be getting paid but closure of that sorry period of my life would be nice. Preferably by friday.

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  22. Chris says

    February 26, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    Hi I received today from wonga not once but 4 times my email stating how much I was getting and within 4 weeks. So i rang to ask why i got these they said don’t know and i should get paid by end of week. Part of me now thinks that they maybe sent these out to reset the 4 weeks to avoid missing out as the only date was today’s and the letter states 4 weeks from date on email. Very poor really

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  23. Jon says

    February 26, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    Bank details were confirmed as being correct in the first instance of the emails being sent out. ‘No need to contact anybody regarding my payment as they have my correct details’, i thought…. and as of tonight, im still awaiting my payment. now im seeing all these messages regarding updates of correct bank details/additional delays for some people… i haven’t contacted wonga throughout all this as never felt i needed to as i have received the 4.3% email, advised of timescale of receipt of payment, told that they have my correct account details etc…. does anybody think i now need to ring wonga?

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    • Laura says

      February 26, 2020 at 10:16 pm

      You won’t be told anything other than payments are still being made. Personally I think it’s all hit the skids now. I don’t think there was any payments paid today but time will tell I’m the same boat as you still not had my £688 but personally don’t expect it anytime soon. I’m more furious the was G&T don’t even have the respect to be upfront and honest with us instead they are saying still making payments that nobody is here reporting 😡

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  24. Timbouk says

    February 26, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    Up until now I had been fairly happy with the way GT has dealt with this. I think it was a bit sneaky to add in it could take up to 28 days to be paid after initially saying payment at the end of January. However as we head to the final couple of days I am becoming increasingly worried I won’t get paid this week. When I rang to chase I was told I would be paid by Friday but no details were taken or checked so they must just be telling every caller regardless of situation that they will be paid by Friday. I know a lot of people are chasing payment but I don’t accept that no one can tell me when my payment will be made. Somewhere hopefully my payment is lined up to be paid and I am sure they can access this information. Let’s see what Friday brings ….

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  25. Paul says

    February 27, 2020 at 6:15 am

    I received a smaller payment back on the 13th and was told it was separate from the main redress claim which I’m still waiting for.

    Reply
  26. Dawn Moore says

    February 27, 2020 at 6:35 am

    Nothing here either, none of my details had changed, I did go through a claims company which I understand have gone under (I’ve had absolutely no correspondence from them) but ticked to have payment sent to me not the claims company.

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  27. John says

    February 27, 2020 at 6:43 am

    The advice for weeks has been “if you received the email at end of jan re the 4.3% then there’s no need to worry” it seems that very few have confirmed payments for a few days now judging by this forum – Sara …what’s your advice now for anyone not yet paid who received the email and who’s bank details have not changed (mines been same for 31 years)?
    Thanks

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    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 27, 2020 at 6:57 am

      I think you should phone up and ask if payment has been made, if so, by BACS or faster payment, to what account and on what date. If it hasn’t, confirm your address and ask when a cheque will be dispatched.

      Reply
  28. Geoff says

    February 27, 2020 at 7:17 am

    I’m making a small claims court claim today for late payment. I adding my interest of £4000 a day on. F**k em, it’s what they’d have done to me.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 27, 2020 at 7:19 am

      don’t do this, the small claims court is not the right place for this sort of claim, you will just waste your money.

      Reply
  29. Pete says

    February 27, 2020 at 7:26 am

    Has anyone actually received a payment this week? I mean really, what are they doing? Clearly there has been a catastrophic breakdown in their processes for them to simply cease making any outgoing payments and it’s deeply concerning to be honest.

    Far from providing any small measure of relief to claimants, a service for which they are being handsomely rewarded, they are now simply heaping further misery and uncertainty upon members of the public who have already suffered enough. This ongoing wall of silence quite clearly illustrates not only a lack of professionalism, but also a lack of any empathy with those whose interests they are being paid to serve. Quite frankly, they are quite clearly not fit for purpose.

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  30. Chris says

    February 27, 2020 at 7:32 am

    I did speak with someone at Wonga yesterday, the lady was quite helpful really, she confirmed the address they have on file for me my account details along with the payments due.

    Was given the usual line of payment by 28th at the latest.

    The only trend I can see from those posting is that we’ve gone through a claims management company, the one I used have issued a pro forma, but agreed I can pay once in receipt of the funds from Wonga. They will chase Wonga should I not receive payment tomorrow.

    I will keep you updated

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  31. Laura says

    February 27, 2020 at 7:33 am

    Does anyone have a number for GT that gets you to somewhere dealing with this administration? No point In calling the Wonga customer services as they are just going with the party line given to them and don’t have access to the administrators systems

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  32. Paul says

    February 27, 2020 at 7:33 am

    Is everyone who’s still waiting expecting a larger amount, say £350+? I haven’t been paid yet, but am not worried yet. If i was the administrator, I’d pay the small amounts first, and hold off on the larger payments till the end. It’s not a conspiracy theory, just common sense.

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 27, 2020 at 8:46 am

      It is a conspiracy theory and it doesn’t make sense.

      And the people who care most about getting their refunds will tend to be the ones with larger amounts due, so they are more likely to be posting here – that doesn’t mean that people owed small amounts have all been paid.

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  33. Laura says

    February 27, 2020 at 7:56 am

    I have emailed the sun newspaper this morning because one thing is for sure GT will respond to them. I emailed everybody mentioned on here yesterday and not one person had the decency to respond. I’m in a much better place now with regards to debt but I cleared my final catalogue debt because I was due £688 until the ombudsman comes back to me and now I’m short as off on maternity leave. So furious

    Reply
  34. Lee says

    February 27, 2020 at 7:57 am

    I can only assume that a huge BACS will be going out tomorrow!!! or not!!!!!!

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 27, 2020 at 8:42 am

      I think you are right!

      Reply
  35. Paul says

    February 27, 2020 at 7:59 am

    Just want to put something here whether it’s a good analogy or not. How many people in the UK get on the Grand National? How many win or even get a place…. a hell if a lot. Does it take 4 weeks plus to pay out… no a number if hours. So the 4 weeks was always ridiculous from a company that has snatched 2.2 million. Take nompridoners from today. Forward complaints on mass to the CEO.

    Let’s make the reputation of this incompetent company is tarnished

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  36. Jen says

    February 27, 2020 at 8:00 am

    I’ve never changed my bank details and my UK current account is active, I use it regularly. Nothing pending today and I have confirmed that nothing is pending for tomorrow either. I am still awaiting payment. I now live abroad, does anyone have a number to call Wonga from outside the UK? I tried to 0044 on the 020 number but did not work.

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  37. David says

    February 27, 2020 at 8:00 am

    Nothing today. Checked with bank this morning and no pending transactions either. Nothing coming in via bacs too. I’ve got a rotten feeling that the administration company are in over their heads and can’t deal with the volume of payments needing done.

    Reply
  38. Paul says

    February 27, 2020 at 8:00 am

    If you made a claim though payday refunds who do you call??? I phoned wonga Tuesday and they said I will get paid by Friday my bank details are correct

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 27, 2020 at 8:40 am

      Payday refunds is no more. You should be paid by Wonga

      Reply
  39. FJ says

    February 27, 2020 at 8:08 am

    No payment or pending into my HSBC account today and it is the 28th tomorrow. It is very clear there is a glitch, I don’t think hardly anyone has been paid for a week? I would appreciate the honest explanation from Wonga/GT 100 times more than the disrespect of not telling us what is going on and why. It is pointless calling either party because there will be contradictions, fob offs and excuses. It won’t speed up a payment. We haven’t really got a leg to stand on…. 😒

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  40. Jax says

    February 27, 2020 at 8:14 am

    Nothing either :( sent an email and the automated reply says if not received payment by the 30th to check your spam folder. I’m guessing they meant 29th. Hope it comes through, don’t need the stress of chasing them up.

    Reply
    • Dionne says

      February 27, 2020 at 8:24 am

      I’ve actually lost all faith now. I’m just going to forget about it. I can’t be bothered to ring or email what’s the point? My bank account has never changed I received the dividend email on Jan 29th like most people but have since heard nothing. I would like to take this time to thank Sara and everyone on here it’s often been a place of reassurance but I’ve had enough now probably won’t be back on here again. Thanks again everyone :)

      Reply
  41. Kris says

    February 27, 2020 at 8:36 am

    Received my payment today from my CMC, I had to forward them the email from wonga yesterday with the amount due because although they had received payments from them they hadn’t put reference numbers on so had to determine how much to pay everyone.

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  42. Dawn says

    February 27, 2020 at 8:52 am

    I have not been paid either. I’ve rang wonga a number of times the past week and have just been given the line of payment by Friday. Yesterday I emailed GT and wonga but I’ve not heard back of either. Very frustrating, wish they were just being honest.

    Reply
    • Darren says

      February 27, 2020 at 8:54 am

      Rang wonga yesterday received the bog standard we are making payments until friday . Il be honest I have lost hope of this payout but all I can hope for is gt learn from this for the upcoming quickquid administration

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  43. Paul says

    February 27, 2020 at 9:03 am

    Ive just sent an email to David Dunckley, FCA, BBC Watchdog and Panorama,

    Ive tried to copy and paste it on here but there are too many characters (Even when condensed)

    Automated response with case number from FCA, Watchdog and Panorama

    Reply
    • Gaz says

      February 27, 2020 at 9:32 am

      I have also contacted panorama ..and watchdog …and within minutes I received an email back to say they will be looking into the behaviour of grant thornton..due to having received many complaints regarding there handling of the wonga compensation payouts and the administration in general…if 1 good thing to come out of this is the fact that g t will have there name dragged through the mud which could be detrimental to there future business then I’m happy about that because truthfully g.t have been more despicable than wonga itself…

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  44. Lee says

    February 27, 2020 at 9:06 am

    Absolutely nothing. Bank with Monzo and my salary is showing as pending for tomorrow but nothing else. I think I am going to resign to the fact I am not going to receive this payment. I’m too busy to be ringing people and visiting this website so that’s it from me. Good luck to everyone else. I don’t need the money anymore so not particularly fussed but what a shambles it has been. I’m out. Goodbye.

    Reply
    • Liam says

      February 27, 2020 at 9:14 am

      Same as me Lee, logged into Monzo today and my salary is pending for tomorrow but nothing from Wonga. Good thing about Monzo is it stops you checking all day, it 100% now won’t go in today/ tomorrow so no need to check

      Reply
  45. Mark says

    February 27, 2020 at 9:06 am

    Nothing from Wonga, nothing from CMC.

    Very poor on comms all round, I think people can deal with news whether it’s good or bad but it’s when we are told nothing that frustration builds.

    It is not too much to ask for open and honest communication.

    Reply
  46. simon says

    February 27, 2020 at 9:14 am

    I have just spoken to wonga, ran through details and acc#. Lady said funds will be with me later today OR tomorrow at latest. Must be faster payment as the account they have shows pending BACS and there are none. Not holding my breath…..shambles and no wonder people are getting cross.

    Reply
    • Liz says

      February 27, 2020 at 9:24 am

      Just spoke to a woman at Wonga who refused to take my claim number and just asked me the reason for my call.
      I asked if my payment had been made as I hadn’t received it yet. She said no one had access to check payments and payments are being made on a daily basis and will be made up to and including tomorrow.
      I asked her would I be receiving my refund tomorrow and she said like I said payments are being made on a daily basis. I said please can you check my claim and the line went dead.

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    • Liz says

      February 28, 2020 at 8:51 am

      I spoke to wonga yesterday, they said they’d be making payments today 28th. I asked if this would be done via Faster payments because Bacs takes 3 days which mean we definitely won’t be paid by the deadline because wonga replied; none of the remaining payments will be paid biafaster payments, only via Bacs I’m afraid…

      Reply
  47. Ace says

    February 27, 2020 at 9:34 am

    I have literally just rang them,

    They said payments are still being made between today and tomorrow, so when asked if paying BACS or faster payments she did not know so I said how can payments be made today then if you don’t know how they a being paid… she then hung up haha 😂

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    • Kieran says

      February 27, 2020 at 9:35 am

      Just called wonga helpline. The lady assured me i havent been paid yet, bank details are correct and payments will be made by tomorrow. Couldnt say if it is bacs or faster payments though.

      Reply
  48. Dave L says

    February 27, 2020 at 9:37 am

    Today I’ve actually had a brainwave. Grant Thornton have a page on trust pilot no reviews at present. Maybe an idea for everyone who has had a negative experience with them to leave a negative review there and everywhere else on line they can. Negative publicity can be a good way to get companies to take responsibility for their actions especially on social media

    Reply
    • Liz says

      February 27, 2020 at 9:45 am

      Good idea and hopefully help them do their jobs properly when they are dealing with refunds from quick Quid.

      Reply
    • T says

      February 27, 2020 at 9:48 am

      I think that is rather childish and will accomplish nothing.

      They are dealing with a massive administration where literally hundreds of thousands of people are creditors. The complexity of winding up such a large company with so many people owed money is mind boggling.

      They have no interest in holding on to our money any longer than they need to, they don’t make interest on it as many have suggested.

      I need the money too, I’ve also not been paid yet but there’s no point in starting a hate campaign against GT when they are simply trying to do a really tough job.

      Let’s show some common sense and patience.

      Reply
      • FJ says

        February 27, 2020 at 10:13 am

        All they have got to do then T is simply produce a statement out of courtesy and admit there is clearly a problem and it will resolve some the communication complaints directed to their firm from thousands of angry people.

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      • Liz says

        February 27, 2020 at 10:35 am

        It’s not a hate campaign!!! All companies want feedback whether it’s positive or negative so they know what they are doing right and if they need to improve on their services. That’s not childish!!!
        They would know themselves this situation by paying some claimant’s and not others hasn’t been dealt with in a professional or caring way.

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      • Sam says

        February 27, 2020 at 5:27 pm

        I will wait until COP tomorrow and if I don’t get my money I will be leaving a negative review.

        It’s not childish behaviour at all. They were fully aware of the complexity of it and also new how many people were owed money.

        Giving people false info on dates of payments is wrong and needs addressing.

        Reply
    • Paul says

      February 27, 2020 at 10:13 am

      Great idea Dave, Ive just left my review on the site

      Reply
      • Dave L says

        February 27, 2020 at 12:14 pm

        Thank you I’ve left my review they seem to have 18 negative reviews now, let’s make it 1000 by the end of next week. I think they need to be called to account for their incompetence and lack of communication. This is the only lawful way I can think to do it prior to making an internal complaint and escalating it to their regulators.

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  49. Dawn says

    February 27, 2020 at 9:49 am

    Just spoke to Wonga. They are still saying we will be paid today or tomorrow. She said if we can’t see a pending payment to our account then it will be a faster payment. I however am not holding my breath!

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  50. JP says

    February 27, 2020 at 9:55 am

    Just had a call from Alex Dobie at Grant Thornton in Manchester. She was very friendly and apologetic but stated the team in South Africa ((where the Wonga customer services calls are being routed to)) have handled the collection of banking details and that is where the issue lays. GT are paying based on those details and have no way of making payments without those details being correct. I’ve no reason to doubt her. I bank with MONZO and I’ve no pending payments either. I’ve given up :-(

    Reply
    • Al1 says

      February 27, 2020 at 10:24 am

      I’ve had my correct details confirmed and still haven’t had payment.

      Reply
  51. nath says

    February 27, 2020 at 9:59 am

    Not received mine yet either. Suppose its probably going to be a phone call job on Friday. Don’t worry people we will get this money, its there in black and white. Just taking a bit of time!

    Reply
    • T says

      February 27, 2020 at 10:02 am

      Some common sense at last! Agree with you totally. There’s no point in stamping our feet, it will happen.

      Reply
  52. Paul says

    February 27, 2020 at 10:11 am

    Ive just posted on their trustpilot review site, everyone should do this today
    See link https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.grantthornton.co.uk

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  53. Chelsea Worley says

    February 27, 2020 at 10:11 am

    I’ve just called them and they’ve said they didn’t have my sort code (when they did). So I’ve given all bank details over the phone. They’ve said it could take up to the middle of next week for payment. If nothing by then, then I’m to call back. Yet again, extending the date.

    Reply
  54. Mac says

    February 27, 2020 at 10:37 am

    What I don’t get is why they do not just put out communication and say payment will be delayed

    Reply
  55. Ross says

    February 27, 2020 at 10:37 am

    Called them and got through pretty sharpish, didn’t ask for any personal details oddly. The woman on the other end said that the payments were being made by BACS but bizarrely enough said that they were going in all throughout today and tomorrow. Didn’t think this was possible with BACS, almost sounds to me like they’re telling anyone anything now.

    Reply
    • Rich says

      February 27, 2020 at 10:49 am

      Ross they’re clearly reading from a script and will tell you anything to get you off the phone! Shambles

      Reply
  56. Rich says

    February 27, 2020 at 10:47 am

    Funny how they’ve said faster payments etc and I’ve been told 100% by tomorrow! What a load of rubbish. I haven’t seen anyone post recently about getting paid! They’ve strung us along like puppets for weeks and like many others I’m not holding my breath anymore. Whole thing is just a total farce and handled appallingly

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    • sandra says

      February 27, 2020 at 12:12 pm

      I have just spoken to Wonga got a very helpful lady who assured me all payments are being done today / tomorrow by end of play ……she also confirmed all by bank details in which were correct ………..still have no faith

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  57. Muke says

    February 27, 2020 at 10:48 am

    I have just had an email response from winga stating the following.
    Dear Mr Brosnan,

    Thank you for your email.

    Payment of the dividend will be completed by the 28th February 2020.

    As you will be aware from previous correspondence to you, the payment is significantly smaller than the Accepted Claim Value. This is because the total value of all accepted claims for customers/creditors significantly exceeds the money available to be shared out.

    As per our previous assessment email, we have also taken steps to update your credit file in accordance with the outcome of their assessment. All updates to customer credit files should be completed within 45 days of this correspondence.

    Kind regards,

    Customer Care

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  58. Mauren Lacdonald says

    February 27, 2020 at 12:13 pm

    I too called wonga this morning.
    They had previously confirmed that they had received the documents that I had sent them at their request.
    Today I got told that they don’t have my new bank details and so I will have to wait for the payment to bounce back to them and for a cheque to be issued. Cheques will start to be issued next week.

    Annoying but I just want this to be over now.

    Reply
  59. Linda says

    February 27, 2020 at 12:16 pm

    I just recieved a cheque through the post for my claim

    Reply
    • Amy says

      February 27, 2020 at 1:42 pm

      Were you expecting a cheque?

      Reply
      • Linda says

        February 27, 2020 at 3:05 pm

        No amy expecting bacs payment.
        Dont know why a cheque was sent to me as they had all my bank details as well.

        Reply
    • Bobby says

      February 27, 2020 at 5:07 pm

      Just got home to a cheque from Grant Thornton, despite sending my updated bank details but I’m no longer bothered – end of the chapter, thank you and good night

      Reply
    • Alex says

      February 27, 2020 at 6:21 pm

      Received a cheque in the post today for £9.08 (dated 13 February). Better than nothing!

      Reply
    • Jane says

      February 27, 2020 at 8:17 pm

      I’ve got my redress this morning. Cheque came through today Dated 13th Feb. Although I dont know why when they had my bank details.

      Reply
  60. Ruby says

    February 27, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    Has anybody gone through [claims firm]. I had originally but when they mentioned taking wonga to court, I stupidly didnt take it any further with them. Moving on I then recieved my email from wonga checking the bank account details (which were correct.) I then recieved the next email stating how much i was owed. The first email has stated my case number and a third party reference number. I have since lost my second email stating how much I am owed. I have searched everywhere possible. Im just looking for advice of who my money will be paid to? (If paid at all) Me or the third party which wasnt finalised?

    Reply
    • Sara (Debt Camel) says

      February 27, 2020 at 4:38 pm

      You need to ask the claims firm.

      Reply
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